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Old 06-12-2008, 08:58 AM
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I guess the only explanation I need is how you managed to exit with +16.

I entered just a bit before you and trailed my stop and ended up at -2.

As you can see I entered before the break of the MA, and it was a little nerve wracking.

My entry and exit are marked with the vertical red lines.

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Second entry one candle too late. Keep a hawk's-eye on the RSi-crossings in cases like these. The H1-RSi had crossed!! The RSis overrule the EMA imho, but when the 15-EMA is too close to the price, I will wait.

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Old 06-12-2008, 09:03 AM
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My retrace long. I have to admit, I scale down my trades often in the afternoon. Here is the long I just took. It was quite agonising to wait out the resistance and I was very tempted to close with 6 pips several times, but I held out.

Looks as though my RSI's have reset though. It was not a perfect setup, I had to risk on the RSI H1 breaking through for me, but a great trade is a great trade. My main "thing to watch" right now is the potential of a long trade even when the CCI turbo on H4 has been showing overheated and CCI is still below zero.

May luck be always on your side.
Excellent entry, Suk. One candle better than mine as I waited for the EMA to be broken. Watch for an e-mail from me later today.

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This morning's entry..................

Need this entry be explained?

Perfect example of when the CCi-5 overheats and come back to "re-load" - notice how the price closed BELOW the 8-EMA upon entry. My stop was @ 78 (-11 pips) and stayed 4 pips above the Orange-EMA.

Banked +50 on the overheating 09h00 candle. Check H1-chart for confirmation.

Good trading to all.
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Second entry one candle too late. Keep a hawk's-eye on the RSi-crossings in cases like these. The H1-RSi had crossed!! The RSis overrule the EMA imho, but when the 15-EMA is too close to the price, I will wait.

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I'm confused. What you are calling my 'Second Entry' is actually my exit. I had trailed the stop at the 15MA - spread.

Are you saying I should have exited when the 5m RSI crossed down? One or two candles before my exit?

Or when the 1hr RSI crossed down 1 candle before my exit?
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Need this entry be explained?

Perfect example of when the CCi-5 overheats and come back to "re-load" - notice how the price closed BELOW the 8-EMA upon entry. My stop was @ 78 (-11 pips) and stayed 4 pips above the Orange-EMA.

Banked +50 on the overheating 09h00 candle. Check H1-chart for confirmation.

Good trading to all.

Valeo,

Could you explain this trade in a bit more depth. I entered at the same time that you did, but went out at -3 pips during the 8:30 candle. I was trailing my stop at the 15MA -spread. How did you know to stay in?

I did re-enter at the close of the 8:40 candle for a total of +12. I did not exit at the 9:00 candle, but at the retrace of the 9:35 candle, and I am not sure what you were looking at to tell you to exit.

James

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Hi James,

Got to admit I'm finding your trade very difficult to understand. I've done what I can below to show you where I would be looking at potential entries (white squares) and exits (blue squares).

I personally would have exited on the candle which overheated the CCI either the first or second time. Particularly the second time. This kind of move is called a "blow off" IMU (in my understanding) and is so steep in gradient that it is likely to offer a retrace after IME (in my estimation).

But as for the trailing stop, I cannot understand it. The market is so choppy after you entered that I would need to probably exit at a small loss and seriously reaccess my position and goals of the trade due to closes above/below all the moving averages.

Keep trying --- ppppppppp.

Suk1000k's 9 P's of trading...

Patience. Persistence. Perseverence. Prior Proper Planning Prevents Poor Performance = the 10th P --- pips
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I'm confused. What you are calling my 'Second Entry' is actually my exit. I had trailed the stop at the 15MA - spread.

Are you saying I should have exited when the 5m RSI crossed down? One or two candles before my exit?

Or when the 1hr RSI crossed down 1 candle before my exit?
Yes, you should have exited when the M5 RSi-setup crossed down from an overheating point - also, never go broke when you have been up by >10 pips EVER. Rather bank +1 then go broke, my friend.

The exit was in fact at the overheating LONG-candle's close!! Pay attention to your bigger picture; you had a Yellow Candle PLUS the Gann-level where it closed. (+17 or at worst +11 for you here).

Best wishes for better trades ahead.

Maybe we need to talk again???
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2nd entry this morning..............

Notice that the M5-TF's RSi-setup never broke the RSi-8 until entry time @ 10h10??

Also, the price bounced off the Orange-coloured EMA. (Guess the setting of this EMA plse) and also the Magenta one above. Magic!! Thank you Lord.

Keep a keen-eye guys. The RSis are "GEMS" just to be picked out.

We are getting closer and closer by the day almost. Thank you for your support guys. Much appreciated.
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Yes, you should have exited when the M5 RSi-setup crossed down from an overheating point - also, never go broke when you have been up by >10 pips EVER. Rather bank +1 then go broke, my friend.

The exit was in fact at the overheating LONG-candle's close!! Pay attention to your bigger picture; you had a Yellow Candle PLUS the Gann-level where it closed. (+17 or at worst +11 for you here).

Best wishes for better trades ahead.

Maybe we need to talk again???
Valeo,

Thanks for the clarification. I see what you were looking at, and your right there was no need to take a loss on this trade, or to exit with any less then 10 pips.

I guess I am just expecting every trade to the 'runner', and I am worried about exiting too early, which I did the other day and missed out on 50 pips.

I will continue to hone my skills!

As far as talking again.. any time. I have quite a few charts that I would like to discuss with you.

James
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Valeo,

As far as talking again.. any time. I have quite a few charts that I would like to discuss with you.

James
Let us set it up tomorrow morning after the first trade. I will open Yahoo.

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