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Old 03-05-2009, 08:22 AM
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I am not deaf to the requests, but what amazes me is the fact that those people NOT trading this method are actually asking for a new Thread.
ValeoFX, I am most certainly trading this method, Neither have you made a fool of yourself. In fact you accurately predicted the fall of the pound, so what is that about?

I have previously said to you privately that I would create a "key" for the more complicated charts because I've studied this thread since beginning of the beginning. See below for H1.

Relating to the below H1 (***I have no idea if these are still used by ValeoFX)

On chart. Green and Red step lines are ENTREX and indicate bounce or consolidation price points where the price may "hug" to these lines. Can be good topside/downside target areas if already in a trade.

The YELLOW HAND (indicates that the RSI2 has crossed the RSI4 on the H1).

The BLUE CAPS indicate an overheating RSI8 (above 69 overbought or below 31 oversold) - corresponds to the BLUE RSI on the offchart window 2.

The RED CAPS indicate an overbought/oversold RSI2 (above 98 or below 2)

The AQUA arrows show RSI8 crossing the 50 line (long/short momentum indication)

The moving averages (self explanatory) -trend direction of long term and short term traders is the way I like to see them - and can act as support/resistance lines - price will bounce.

TROBUYZONE history (blue and purple "stepping" line). Important support/resistance from the H4 and Daily. It looks as though this indicator plots the CLOSING price of the H4 / daily candle previous.

***Suggestion: Arguably, if it plotted the HIGH/LOW of the day, it could help us significantly I feel...

PIVOT POINTS: Price will bounce at R1, R2, R3; S1, S2, S3 and of course at pivot. MR1, MR2, MS1, MS2 are mid-points between Pivot to R1; R1 to R2; etc etc. and can also be bounce points/support/resistance areas.

The dotted bands are severe overbought/sold areas. Price never hangs around in these when they are expanded. Price can breakout if contracted. Very good overbought/oversold levels in a smoothly trending market.

Magnified market price (speaks for itself)
Time (speaks for itself)

Offchart:

CCI 15/5 - study Woodies CCI document and this thread plus previous XO thread. 165 denotes an overheat. Important signals are zero line reject and zero line cross. Steepness of gradient give momentum strength of direction. "Togetherness" of CCI15 and 5 also is a strong sign of an accurate signal, especially if CC5 (turbo) is "leading" the 15,such as the reject you can see

RSI 8/4/2 - Crosses of 2 over 4 generate signals. It is good to see RSI 8 above or below 50 (long or short mode). Of course, coming down from overbought is a sell signal, up from oversold is a buy signal.

RSI3PER4H. This is the RSI8/4/2 combination from the H4 chart transposed on to the H1. Again, to reference above RSI "signals" or levels. Green above red indicates long mode, green below red indicates short mode from MOST intents/purposes but watch out for severe prolonged overheating.

XO - Red is downtrend, green is uptrend. RED/GREEN indicates a possible directional change.

Hope that helps some as a reference. There is a full detail on the H1 chart both in the pdf collating ValeoFX's posts some time ago (there were two or three updates so get the latest one). The above are just my observations. My understanding is that ValeoFX tends not to trade "against" the H1 chart.

So for example, to have lined up signals for H1 chart you would need to be confident of either being above, or able to break through the moving averages, good CCI read, RSI8 above 50 for long, 2 crossed 4 RSI, XO in agreement or in changing mode from opposite direction, RSI H4in agreement.

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[quote=suk1000k;266246]ValeoFX, I am most certainly trading this method, Neither have you made a fool of yourself. In fact you accurately predicted the fall of the pound, so what is that about?

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OY, Suk! What can I say???????????? I did not have YOU in mind in the first place and I have no idea why you feel that way. You are NOT privy to my PMs so I don't understand why you jumped to an ill founded conclusion, my friend. However, I do apologise unconditionally to YOU personally if that is how you feel as there is not much else that I can do to change how you feel about my post.

Whilst you have mentioned it, I have a private email from you in which you actually told me that you no longer trade this method as you are being trained by someone else and that you are so engrossed in what you are being taught. I am happy for you as long as you make the cut, my friend. It is good to have your expertise in here, but please do not feel victimised, which you are not.

Best wishes anyway.
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I am not deaf to the requests, but what amazes me is the fact that those people NOT trading this method are actually asking for a new Thread.
I had just suggested new thread. I assumed it was response to this. It is my confusion, my stuff, acknowledged. My apologies for being challenging. I would love to be privy, I have always enjoyed testing in the past. I don't know what I did not make myself not privy, apart from I posted a thread and promoted a service I use as an adjunct in my signature like many members do. My concern is that you thought you made a fool of yourself for the long term charts, and it was incredible lessons back then. I would not like for you to hold back on info that has helped a lot. I don't even know who is trading live and who is holy grail chasing or trading microlots anymore. So we have to question everything. Peace be with you.
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I'm not even trading microlots, i'm trade on demo only

But shhuuttttttt ......

The forex-tsd show started or what ?

Hey, Suk if you are not happy, the door is open ...
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Hey guys

There are many people following this thread and are greatly appreciative. I am trading live and not micro lots. All of your guidance is GREATLY appreciated.
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The best teacher is reading the entire thread, then read it again. Build your chart and start recognizing what the indicators are telling you. Once you have done your homework and you develop specific questions those can be answered. I tell you this. This is the best on this forum and even the entire internet. If you need anything PM me and I will try to help you.
It`s easy too say but my english is very bad! I need more than 2 months for this long thread!
The only thing I need is a short description/instruction
Only Entry and Exit Rules (TP/SL), short facts...
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Here it is in a nutshell. Trade the 15M_SM.
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Question Hi Yevell

I really like your standard entry and your cci std indicators...
but I and many others would greatly prefer if we could
make it so the bars dont repaint after close.. Linuxuser
was mentioning this about another indicator on another
thread, how you can just make mtf indicators so they
close on candle end instead of looping and that way
when the candle closes it is set in stone as it signaled at the time
and looking at our charts we can see what really was
on the chart at the time.

This way you can really back test an indicator because
what it shows on the charts is what really was showing
at the time you would be entering trades. I totally
get the point of mtf indicators and why they "repaint"
because of longer time frames closing.. but by making
the indicator close on candle close.. so those bars
dont change later, we can actually back test on
real data like it would be live.. not later adjusted
and not really real live when it happened.

If you could do this for these two indicators, make
a version non repainting, if you will for a term
it would be awesome.

If you or another great coder on this thread could help
do this?

Thanks for your consideration

Brian
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I really like your standard entry and your cci std indicators...
but I and many others would greatly prefer if we could
make it so the bars dont repaint after close.. Linuxuser
was mentioning this about another indicator on another
thread, how you can just make mtf indicators so they
close on candle end instead of looping and that way
when the candle closes it is set in stone as it signaled at the time
and looking at our charts we can see what really was
on the chart at the time.

This way you can really back test an indicator because
what it shows on the charts is what really was showing
at the time you would be entering trades. I totally
get the point of mtf indicators and why they "repaint"
because of longer time frames closing.. but by making
the indicator close on candle close.. so those bars
dont change later, we can actually back test on
real data like it would be live.. not later adjusted
and not really real live when it happened.

If you could do this for these two indicators, make
a version non repainting, if you will for a term
it would be awesome.

If you or another great coder on this thread could help
do this?

Thanks for your consideration

Brian
this would be really great!
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impossible ! i have not seen any MTF indicator which could not reset when restart ! if you have one, you could send it to me, and I will read the code, and try to modify the cci_std ! but for now, impossible !

by the way, if you want to backtest it, you'd better save the pictures of the charts everyday ! then, after one month or more, you would have enough pics for you backtest !

best wishes !


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Originally Posted by generousforex View Post
I really like your standard entry and your cci std indicators...
but I and many others would greatly prefer if we could
make it so the bars dont repaint after close.. Linuxuser
was mentioning this about another indicator on another
thread, how you can just make mtf indicators so they
close on candle end instead of looping and that way
when the candle closes it is set in stone as it signaled at the time
and looking at our charts we can see what really was
on the chart at the time.

This way you can really back test an indicator because
what it shows on the charts is what really was showing
at the time you would be entering trades. I totally
get the point of mtf indicators and why they "repaint"
because of longer time frames closing.. but by making
the indicator close on candle close.. so those bars
dont change later, we can actually back test on
real data like it would be live.. not later adjusted
and not really real live when it happened.

If you could do this for these two indicators, make
a version non repainting, if you will for a term
it would be awesome.

If you or another great coder on this thread could help
do this?

Thanks for your consideration

Brian

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