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Old 09-12-2007, 05:23 PM
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I'm with you on this one. Let's come back to business.
On earth or not on earth...I'm using the original 2 indis from bear together with the nonlagdot indi on the 30M chart. That filters out about 90% of the bad signals (see the 7 arrows with the dot still blue below) as I enter the trade only after the dot has changed in my direction and the bar with the right dot color is closed, because then the dot doesn't repaint anymore. Together with the confirmation of the QQE it's pretty safe for me.
But thats just for the last days...no guarantee as well here
Hi dxtrade,

I couldn't find the nonlagdot indicator you showed in your chart. Would you be so kind to post it together with the QQE indicator?

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nonlag dot indicator

There u go. I don't have the other indicator, but I will see if I can find it for you.
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Hi dxtrade,

I couldn't find the nonlagdot indicator you showed in your chart. Would you be so kind to post it together with the QQE indicator?

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Sorry, was busy reading.
Here is the QQE indi:
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Here's the qqe, made by a coder over at FF named Que.
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In the illustration that Igor offered, there were 49 consecutive repaints -- therefore 49 consecutive losses. I have never met anyone, regardless of their money management skill, who could trade through 49 consecutive losses. It's too tough, mentally.

Why not enter in the reverse direction of the zigzag each time and take the profit that BigBear's stop loss would give? Winners would be 70%+, and you wouldn't have to worry about filters. The most important thing would be to contain the loss that this reverse logic would incur when the trend actually reversed.

False signals for any indicator come at lower time frames. So, the reverse logic might be more profitable in time frames less than four hours. I think this could be tested with the ghost arrows that someone produced to show the false signals earlier in this thread.
You would have to run a pretty tight stop to do this with good MM on the smaller timeframes, though you might be able to have a SAR at your stop level to catch a trend reversal when it did occur. Instead of chasing all those small positions and paying spread each time, I think it would make more sense to just try and hit the bottom/top entry and ride it all the way.

49 losses was on the 1hr chart without taking into consideration candlestick formations, it would be interesting to see what forex11's profit was for that pair over the same period since I think he trades with some discretion on the same TF. Remember also that it was only one pair, if you diversify over 7 or 8 pairs which don't have the GBPJPY's tendency to only move up for long periods of time, you could still make some profit.
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Improving this method

If Martingale is added and you have 45 losses in a row, there is not enough money tin the world to cover the losses.

This is because doubling lots at every loss, even starting with a penny, would result in 2 raised to the 49th power. This is a huge number.

Add CCI 34 or 55 to the chart and you will see a very good filter, especially for exits.

On the attached chart you will see how almost all false signals are avoided.

This is what I am currently testing.

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Martingale may not be the term..."averaging in" as it goes against you at 0.01 lot at a time...this brings the average trade price higher/lower as you are waiting for the turn..

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another example

Here is another chart showing effectiveness of CCI

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Martingale may not be the term...averaging in as it goes against you at 0.01 lot at a time...this brings the average trade price higher/lower as you are waiting for the turn..

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The Martingale idea is that when you have a loss on 1 unit the next trade is doubled to cover the loss with the first half and hope for a win on the second half. This is continued until you have a win.

Are you suggesting the first trade is 0.01 lots , then 0.02, then 0.03, etc?
Or is each trade for 0.01 lots?
Either way it does not help because of the series of losses not being covered by the final win unless there is a large return on the win.

I would prefer to use a filter.

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