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I have to agree with the sentiment that trying to develop a complete strategy using AI (and in particular GA) is going to get you into a whole heap of trouble, for the obvious reason that its not really strategy development, its abdicating responsibility and logical thought to a technoloy in the hope these things spot tradable patterns, with the inevitable data mining bias. Using GA for specific functional aspects, is a different kettle of fish altogether, and from my limited experience, quite useful ! |
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This is the same kind of flimsy stuff I read about all AI and GA stuff...it's not finished yet...but the developers want big bucks for it...it "predicts the past" really well....uh, no, I don't know of anyone making good money with it...sorry.... |
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My ideas are encaplusated in EAs...I gave a good thumbnail in the first post of this thread. Everything else up my sleeve gets posted on MY forum. |
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autofx dont u feel like ur cheating on ur forum when u post here? hehe im jk
im gona open an account with ibfx and and join ur forum check it out. by the way im a noob but i learn quick, regarding AI here is my opinion if it matters at all. AI and neural netorks i think especialy in these type of forums there is alot of misunderstanding and misperceptions about the usage and application of AI. i have an AI EA that places orders via price predictions, and it does alright, but this type of aplication of AI is usless and trash. im intrested in adaptive ai. to make adaptive indicators, or adaptive systems. we can already make adaptive EAs with out the need for AI. but AI can strengthen the adaptive components of a system. the people that make the AI dont know how to trade, the people that use the AI dont know how to trade but someone that does know how to trade and can impliment AI in his own way. will have an edge. but one can not say, oh im all about EA's and using systems on computers. its quicker and they dont get tired. and say AI is a waste of time, thats a contradiction. |
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I'm not cheating on my forum, nah. I own/admin that forum, so can I cheat on myself?
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UNLESS you lump the logic used to implement very simple trading tactics under Artificial Intelligence (AI), which I do not. However, Expert Advisors (EAs) could be lumped under "Expert Systems", which to some is a form of Artificial Intelligence... It's all just terminology. What I'm referring to when I say AI and Genetic Algorithms is a very exotic type of software that is usually overkill and is trying to predict the future, or is being sold as something that can predict the future. There are many ways to think about trading. I come against the school that says, "You have to be a very wise analyst who understands the technical, fundamental and psychological aspects of a market to trade it profitably." I say, "Bull hockey, I have simple software scripts that can trade profitably, and they are extremely simple...they implement effective trading tactics, don't get tired, are accurate, and react very quickly. They don't try to predict what will happen next, and they don't need to." It seems this kind of talk gets some folks very riled up. Why? Because they have been making good money collecting commissions and fees from people whom they've convinced they are gurus. Last edited by autofx; 06-06-2007 at 10:50 PM. |
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