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Old 01-16-2007, 01:34 AM
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Very Profitable Heiken-Ashi System

Greetings,

I, like many others, have been searching for the perfect trading system, and I believe I have found it. I'm writing to ask you to examine this system and provide any constructive feedback that you might have.

When I say "perfect" trading system, I do not mean to imply that it has no losses, but what I mean is that it is "perfect" for my trading style and my 3 requirements.

Here is a list of the requirements that I had set out for the system, followed by the system itself, and then I will attach the only indicator I use:

Requirements:
1. Must be "set it and forget it" system, as I am in the air 3-4 days a week and cannot monitor the markets intraday.

2. Must catch all major trends.

3. Must handle ranging markets acceptably.

Indicator: Heiken-Ashi Smoothed set to 2-6-3-2.

Trading System:

Entry: 0000 GMT (7:00 PM Eastern time).

Enter in direction of previous Heiken-Ashi candle (blue=long, red=short)

Stop Loss: 50 pips

Take Profit: 55 Pips

Money management:

Start with .10/pip (1000 units at Oanda) or micro lot for every $3,000.00.
double up on every loss, maximum 9 losses

Backtesting:

I have backtested this system for the months of June through October 2006, and am continuing to backtest for Novemer and December. I will post the results in a spreadsheet on the next post down.

Summary: Out of the 5 months backtested this system produced the equivalent of 3414 pips. I say the "equivalent of" because when I would "double up" on a loss I had to put twice the number of pips actually one, so the spreadsheet would equal the dollar amount won correctly.

Concern: Many people say that doubling after a loss is dangerous and risky. To alleviate some of the risk I start with very minimal lot sizes. Obviously this has the adverse affect of not growing the account very rapidly when you get a string of all winners. But this adverse affect seems to be offset by the reality that you really never have a losing trade because all losses are more than offset by the doubling up of the winners.

Any feedback you have would be appreciated, or if anyone is able to test this system back several years with backtesting software, please let me know.

Thank you.

Mike

edited: settings are 2-6-3-2

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Old 01-16-2007, 01:37 AM
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Heikien-Ashi Smoothed Indicator

Here is the only indicator I use for this system. Set properties to 2-6-3-2.
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Old 01-16-2007, 01:53 AM
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Backtesting Statistics

I cannot find a way to upload an Excel spreadsheet here. If anyone knows how please let me know, or I can email the spreadsheet to you and you can upload it if that would be better.

Meanwhile, here are some stats from Market System Analyzer:

================================================== ===========================================
PERFORMANCE STATISTICS
================================================== ===========================================

TRADING PARAMETERS........................................ ...................................
Initial Account Equity: $2,500.00
Trading Vehicle: Futures
Initial Margin: $500.00
Round-turn slippage per contract: $0.00
Round-turn commissions and fees per contract: $0.00
Position Sizing Method: None
No. Contracts: From input data

PROFIT SUMMARY........................................... ....................................
Total Net Profit: $16,173.40
Gross Profit: $22,262.00
Gross Loss: -$6,088.60
Profit Factor: 3.6563
Highest Closed Trade Equity: $18,673.40
Lowest Closed Trade Equity: $1,966.00
Final Account Equity: $18,673.40
Return on Starting Equity: 646.94%

TRADE RESULTS........................................... .....................................
Number of Trades: 96
Number of Winning Trades: 49
Number of Losing Trades: 47
Percent Profitable: 51.04%
Max Number of Contracts: 1
Minimum Number of Contracts: 1
Average Number of Contracts: 1
Largest Winning Trade ($): $7,040.00 (92.47%)
Largest Winnning Trade (%): 121.11% ($3,520.00)
Average Winning Trade ($): $454.33
Average Winning Trade (%): 8.20%
Max Number Consecutive Wins: 5
Largest Losing Trade ($): -$800.00 (-9.51%)
Largest Losing Trade (%): -14.00% (-$320.00)
Average Losing Trade ($): -$129.54
Average Losing Trade (%): -2.49%
Max Number Consecutive Losses: 5
Average Trade ($): $168.47
Average Trade (%): 2.96%
Trade Standard Deviation ($): $865.22
Trade Standard Deviation (%): 16.43%
Win/Loss Ratio ($/$): 3.5071
Win/Loss Ratio (%/%): 3.2910
Return/Drawdown Ratio: 26.8520
Modified Sharpe Ratio: 0.1804

DRAWDOWNS......................................... ...........................................
Number of Closed Trade Drawdowns: 20
Average Drawdown ($): -$299.89
Average Drawdown (%): 5.49%
Average Number of Trades in Drawdowns: 2
Worst Case Drawdown ($): -$1,325.00 (14.82%)
Trade Number at Trough: 76
Number of Trades in Drawdown: 3
Worst Case Drawdown (%): 24.09% (-$624.00)
Trade Number at Trough: 10
Number of Trades in Drawdown: 5
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What time frame and pairs you traded on?
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Originally Posted by mikejody
I cannot find a way to upload an Excel spreadsheet here. If anyone knows how please let me know
Hi.

I think you kan upload any file if you zip it.
There are many good free software you can use but i am sure you know that.
I use WinRAR. You find it here: http://www.rarlab.com/
If that do not work you can upload it to a file share server and post the download link here.
There are many free servers you can use. You find lot of them if you Google.
I use: http://www.rapidshare.com/
I hope it helps

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Originally Posted by mikejody
Greetings,

I, like many others, have been searching for the perfect trading system, and I believe I have found it. I'm writing to ask you to examine this system and provide any constructive feedback that you might have.

When I say "perfect" trading system, I do not mean to imply that it has no losses, but what I mean is that it is "perfect" for my trading style and my 3 requirements.

Here is a list of the requirements that I had set out for the system, followed by the system itself, and then I will attach the only indicator I use:

Requirements:
1. Must be "set it and forget it" system, as I am in the air 3-4 days a week and cannot monitor the markets intraday.

2. Must catch all major trends.

3. Must handle ranging markets acceptably.

Indicator: Heiken-Ashi Smoothed set to 2-3-6-2.

Trading System:

Entry: 0000 GMT (7:00 PM Eastern time).

Enter in direction of previous Heiken-Ashi candle (blue=long, red=short)

Stop Loss: 50 pips

Take Profit: 55 Pips

Money management:

Start with .10/pip (1000 units at Oanda) or micro lot for every $3,000.00.
double up on every loss, maximum 5 losses

Backtesting:

I have backtested this system for the months of June through October 2006, and am continuing to backtest for Novemer and December. I will post the results in a spreadsheet on the next post down.

Summary: Out of the 5 months backtested this system produced the equivalent of 3414 pips. I say the "equivalent of" because when I would "double up" on a loss I had to put twice the number of pips actually one, so the spreadsheet would equal the dollar amount won correctly.

Concern: Many people say that doubling after a loss is dangerous and risky. To alleviate some of the risk I start with very minimal lot sizes. Obviously this has the adverse affect of not growing the account very rapidly when you get a string of all winners. But this adverse affect seems to be offset by the reality that you really never have a losing trade because all losses are more than offset by the doubling up of the winners.

Any feedback you have would be appreciated, or if anyone is able to test this system back several years with backtesting software, please let me know.

Thank you.

Mike

Hi
With above setting indicator disappears.
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Expert to use with the abovementioned indicator. I'm sorry but with your settings it lose money on any timeframe.

Expert works with single order fixed lot and does not use Martingale money management. Use it just to test the general idea.
This strategy makes only 40% profitable orders. It means that random entering to the market will be more succesfull than using this strategy.
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What time frame and pairs you traded on?
I have only tested this on the GBP/USD daily chart. I am sure it would work well on other pairs, with modified stop loss and take profit figures.

Also, it was brought to my attention that I listed the Heiken-Ashi settings in two different ways. The correct settings are 2-6-3-2.
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Expert to use with the abovementioned indicator. I'm sorry but with your settings it lose money on any timeframe.

Expert works with single order fixed lot and does not use Martingale money management. Use it just to test the general idea.
This strategy makes only 40% profitable orders. It means that random entering to the market will be more succesfull than using this strategy.
Thank you for your comments. On my 5 months of back testing the stats were different, showing 54% hit rate. I acknowledge it is the Martingale money management that makes this system profitable, but I only care that it is indeed profitable, not how it gets that way.
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I wish you luck, but I think you'll find you'll get bitten in the end. The answer to the trading conundrum is risk/money management and an edge. This way you are prepared for anything the market throws at you.

As somebody else posted on another thread here, you might find this interesting.

http://grailtrading.blogspot.com/
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