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Default ranking by dollar I think is a good idea. Or maybe by annual ROE. This would take into consideration account size and equalize recent x older signals somehow. Not a great precision for very recent signals, but should ajust with time. A minimum "exposure period" required to figure in the rankings may solve this.
I must agree...that was an old post you dug up ☺ I was still evaluating the idea of tsd and RAS when I posted that. I have a love for this freelance and non commercial forum and you found me struggling and thinking out loud.
ES
P.S. I am convinced that ND will allow tsd to co-exist and for RAS to not conflict with the open and free exchange of ideas here from anonymous guests, traders and coders.
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Originally Posted by mudar
Just selling signal is far better than selling or renting EA.....copyright matters.
Last edited by ElectricSavant; 12-31-2008 at 04:55 AM.
Big lot size may push up or down. I think serious signal providers and buyers will not take too seriously top ranking, but will focus on consistency. By the way, wouldn't it be interesting to rank by consistency, measured by some stats run on historical performance? Well, a quick glance at the equity/balance charts gives a good idea about it.
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Originally Posted by newdigital
People are using different lot size: 0.01 or 1 ... I saw 5 and 10 ... in this case the members will use big lot size to the the first in ranking ...
Anyway, best in pips is not the best in general ...
I do not think that someone will buy the signals (if it is for money) without looking at the stats first.
If we will have the section for RAS in the forum (not 1 this thread but whole section with many threads) so signal providers will have the possibility to explain everything, to promote and so on.
Just an idea.
Excuse me for interuppting but this is a good idea...RAS is proving to be unique thus far and a consistency column/chart could be just another innovation.
ES
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Originally Posted by Jairo
Big lot size may push up or down. I think serious signal providers and buyers will not take too seriously top ranking, but will focus on consistency. By the way, wouldn't it be interesting to rank by consistency, measured by some stats run on historical performance? Well, a quick glance at the equity/balance charts gives a good idea about it.
Last edited by ElectricSavant; 12-30-2008 at 06:25 PM.
There is also room for comments within RAS also....In my opinion, we do want to provide a place in tsd however...to keep the solicitations contained in the proposed tsd/RAS sub forum and not all over the place in the other tsd threads and sub forums....
It should also be for the moderator to move posts or make a suggestion by PM for the new RAS sub forum when a signal vendor/seller is promoting his service in the wrong place.
eS
P.S. Remember oiler? He would be foaming at the mouth for RAS...
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Originally Posted by newdigital
If we will have the section for RAS in the forum (not 1 this thread but whole section with many threads) so signal providers will have the possibility to explain everything, to promote and so on.
Just an idea.
Last edited by ElectricSavant; 12-30-2008 at 06:20 PM.
You know...the more I think about this the more I think like Jairo...We should have the stats chart visable (still visable but click on it to enlarge) on the signal page, next to each seller.
ES
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Originally Posted by Jairo
Big lot size may push up or down. I think serious signal providers and buyers will not take too seriously top ranking, but will focus on consistency. By the way, wouldn't it be interesting to rank by consistency, measured by some stats run on historical performance? Well, a quick glance at the equity/balance charts gives a good idea about it.
Yeah ND....As a trader I was mentored to think in PIPS not dollars....But you see you must default it to an equal benchmark and goal in some way. I do not think that PIPS is the answer...you need to provide a snapshot of the portfolio of sellers somehow.
There are many signal sellers that use a variable lotsize...martingalers will always default to last place when they might be in the top ten profit wise...
To make RAS a professional traders site...you could default the rank in Benefit to Risk Ratio hehe...ok I will shut up...lets not go there....You all know by now that I feel that DD is the most important with a reasonable return and preservation!
ES
P.S. by the way....Benefit to Risk ratio that I publish in my signal commentary is the best measure of the robustness of an signals performance, because it is fair and balanced.
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Originally Posted by newdigital
People are using different lot size: 0.01 or 1 ... I saw 5 and 10 ... in this case the members will use big lot size to the the first in ranking ...
Anyway, best in pips is not the best in general ...
I do not think that someone will buy the signals (if it is for money) without looking at the stats first.
Last edited by ElectricSavant; 12-31-2008 at 04:54 AM.
The developers are having a hard time with us, lol. In my opinion, this is an excellent idea. I think the best and simplest way to evaluate a signal is looking at its historical equity/balance chart. Most important aspects of its mechanics is somehow exposed there.
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Originally Posted by ElectricSavant
You know...the more I think about this the more I think like Jairo...We should have the stats chart visable (still visable but click on it to enlarge) on the signal page, next to each seller.
This is the reason.....Jairo...you hit the nail right on the head...This is the comment of the week that I am quoting from you...(RAS should make this easy with their default signal page...the respect from the clients will be huge)
ES
I think serious signal providers and buyers will not take too seriously top ranking, but will focus on consistency.
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