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Old 11-20-2007, 12:59 PM
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ND, how do you ban a member permanantly as he/she can signup with different username? Or ban by IP?
I am not banning the members permanently for forex spam. Just for 1 week or 1 months only.

As to the spam not related to the forex so mostly this spam are coming from one country only but different IP addresses. And most of the spam are doing the robots (mass registering on the forums and mass sending the posts using automated software with different IP addresses - freeware). So, in most cases the spammer is not visiting the forum phisically and in all cases: spammer does not speak English.

As to the spam related to the forex (commercial ads and so on) so I am not banning the people permanently. Just for 1 week or 1 months only. Of course person can register once again but if he register once again so he will promote same commercial service in public threads, right? It is easy to identify. Besides, banning for 1 week is nothing: member can come back to the forum with no problem. People who created many clones to spam the forum are banned permanently of course. But we had just one or 2 cases only for 2 years (pernamently banned for forex spam), for example: the person which had about 80 usenames and spammed our forum for 1 and half a year.

So, if someone was banned for forex spam so this person should not be worry about: he can come back to the forum after 1 month (or less). We had many cases like that and no one even knew about it as I did not publish this stories.
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Old 11-20-2007, 01:13 PM
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ND, understood. Jut curious to ask as I know it's real hard to nail down some spammers, just like what I am experiencing in my mailbox daily, "viagra", "p-enlargement" etc.....they cant mutate into different form to spam again.

Sigh, I can imagine how hard is your job as to hunt down spammer and keep this forum in peace. I've been to different fx forums, forex-tsd to me so far is in well organized and controlled. Well done ND. Respect
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:54 AM
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2 Steinitz commercial threads were moved to 'Raw Commercial Ideas' section waiting for evaluation. Evaluation thread was already opened in Evaluate Commercial Ideas. So,I think someone with collaboration with the coder should provide some technical view.

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1 commercial thread was moved from 'Raw Commercial Ideas' section to 'Deleted Commercial Threads' section.

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5 commercial threads were moved to 'Raw Commercial Ideas' section waiting for evaluation.
6 commercial threads were deleted phisically.

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6 more commercial threads were moved to 'Raw Commercial Ideas' section waiting for evaluation.
3 more commercial threads were deleted phisically.

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Old 11-22-2007, 09:25 AM
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One member was banned for 1 week for consistent commercial forex spam.

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9 threads were moved to 'Raw Commercial Ideas' section waiting for evaluation.
6 commercial threads were deleted phisically.

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5 more threads were moved to 'Raw Commercial Ideas' section waiting for evaluation.

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Old 11-23-2007, 05:54 AM
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One member (MASMP_FX) was banned for 1 day for consistent commercial forex spam. He posted this message

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I want to remind to all the members that every commercial thread will have evaluation thread.

Evaluation threads are something related to our forex-tsd forum. Usually commercial vendors are trying to get some well-known and reputable members to answer to them.

'Raw Commercial Ideas' threads and Commercial thjreads are something related to vendor only.

Please don't force the vendor to do something which he does not want to do in his own commercial/raw thread. Simple mention the case in our forex-tsd evaluation threads.

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Old 11-23-2007, 01:17 PM
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newdigital, if you were genuinely concerned about the commercial scammers you would have to do just one thing.

Insist that every Commercial Seller provide real-account results, which are ongoing and may be inspected at anytime by prospective buyers - otherwise, you delete their thread.

It really is that simple. This would obviously only apply to those selling EA's but it would cut all the bullshit that goes on here by at least half. The costs incurred by the seller on setting up such an account would be very little - and afterall, these EA's are actually supposed to make money...

There is only one seller that regularily posts on TSD that does this and as you well know, there is little controversy about that sytem. I, and I guess a whole lot more, cannot understand why you do not sort this out, once and for all - by simply doing what is hilighted above.

Personally, I think from the 'business' standpoint, you view all this controversy as a 'good thing' which is why you continue to permit it.

Finally,after careful consideration, I also think this 'evaluation' thing is just more nonsense - a way of continuing the arguments, while (hopefully) being seen as trying to sort it out...
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newdigital, if you were genuinely concerned about the commercial scammers you would have to do just one thing.

Insist that every Commercial Seller provide real-account results, which are ongoing and may be inspected at anytime by prospective buyers - otherwise, you delete their thread.

It really is that simple. This would obviously only apply to those selling EA's but it would cut all the bullshit that goes on here by at least half. The costs incurred by the seller on setting up such an account would be very little - and afterall, these EA's are actually supposed to make money...

There is only one seller that regularily posts on TSD that does this and as you well know, there is little controversy about that sytem. I, and I guess a whole lot more, cannot understand why you do not sort this out, once and for all - by simply doing what is hilighted above.

Personally, I think from the 'business' standpoint, you view all this controversy as a 'good thing' which is why you continue to permit it.

Finally,after careful consideration, I also think this 'evaluation' thing is just more nonsense - a way of continuing the arguments, while (hopefully) being seen as trying to sort it out...
New Digital wants to put the Knife in slowly .....thats his style ...........Later he puts in big knife

Just wait!

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Old 11-23-2007, 01:55 PM
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newdigital, if you were genuinely concerned about the commercial scammers you would have to do just one thing.

Insist that every Commercial Seller provide real-account results, which are ongoing and may be inspected at anytime by prospective buyers - otherwise, you delete their thread.

It really is that simple. This would obviously only apply to those selling EA's but it would cut all the bullshit that goes on here by at least half. The costs incurred by the seller on setting up such an account would be very little - and afterall, these EA's are actually supposed to make money...

There is only one seller that regularily posts on TSD that does this and as you well know, there is little controversy about that sytem. I, and I guess a whole lot more, cannot understand why you do not sort this out, once and for all - by simply doing what is hilighted above.

Personally, I think from the 'business' standpoint, you view all this controversy as a 'good thing' which is why you continue to permit it.

Finally,after careful consideration, I also think this 'evaluation' thing is just more nonsense - a way of continuing the arguments, while (hopefully) being seen as trying to sort it out...
Just for example. One person wanted to sell pattern indicator. Can I evaluate it? No I can not. Because I do not know patterns.
The other example: one guy wants to sell something. Many people can say to him: "hi friend how you are doing?". But I do not know him ... so can I believe in him or something? People must say, right?

Evaluation is just our community opinion. It is the same as student (vendor) are presenting the thesis for a Doctor's/Marter's degree and academic council member (evaluator) from some university (forex-tsd forum) are giving some references to this thesis.

Because how it was before?
I created the rules and I fulfilled the rules and no one cared about (i mean the sellers): they did not send me anything for evaluation anything for 1 year. And the other peoblem: do I have a time for that? Probable not.
It was like that before.

So, evaluation is the following: if our community accept this seller based on 1 or few opinions (evaluation) so that's fine. Not - not. Andf it is only rules which will work.

If the evaluator decides for some particular seller to test it with real account so that's fine. If evaluator said that it is not necessaery for him so that's fine as well. Because evaluation thread is open and everyone can tell any opinion.
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:04 PM
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New Digital wants to put the Knife in slowly .....thats his style ...........Later he puts in big knife

Just wait!

El
No, it is exceptional case. I will move all the threads to Raw ideas section and then we will decide based on evaluation: to move the threads back to commercial section or to move it to Deleted section. If no evaluation - I am moving the thread to deleted section. Quick and easy.
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:04 AM
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