black list of programming services clients and/or programmers - Page 6

oilfxpro · #51 (**permalink**) 02-18-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wookey

Oilfxpro,

That's funny. You claimed that you had real bad experience with programmers and instead of telling us who are the bastards, you are trying to catch me in a word. Ok. If you have nothing better to do. I don't see any offer in my post. It was just an idea of starting on this site a development exchange similar to Rent-A-Coder that was not supported by other developers. I wrote my variant of rules and asked for suggestions, that's all. Until now, no one thought it was an offer of programming service.

Wookey

Wookey

Don't take it seriously, you have not done anything wrong and often you get a lot of misnderstandings

U should see Bluto..............now he is one with a leopard's spots

There is a saying "A leopard never loses its spots and another saying it runs in the blood

and you should check Bluto's blood

StrategyBuilderFX

OILFXPRO

forex_for_life · #52 (**permalink**) 02-18-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by omelette

For someone who is not out to "knock" someone, insulting him (either directly or by implication) 3-4 times as you have just done would suggest otherwise! As Wookey will testify, I have had no dealings with him in the past, but to me at least, you are coming across as someone who has just divulged the secret of eternal life to someone, and he's just done a runner! - whereas in reality it just a case of someone not responding when you more or less insisted he should do so.

Time to get a bit of perspective and ease up on the insults...

Omelette,

PLEASE quote, where in my post, I "insulted" Wookey.

Definition of insult:

1. to treat or speak to insolently or with contemptuous rudeness; affront.
2. to affect as an affront; offend or demean.
3. Archaic. to attack; assault.

I wasn't rude, I didn't demean him, I didn't attack him.

It seems as if a few members on TSD need to touch up on their vocab skills and reality. Facts are facts. I'm done w/ the whole thing. As should you, especially given the fact it didn't involve you.

Thanks again for this setup NewDigital and Linuxuser. I've been professional as possible out of respect for you and the other productive and proactive members of this board. To TSD!!!

forex_for_life · #53 (**permalink**) 02-18-2008, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wookey

Forex_for_life,

You are compensating lack of arguments with personal offenses, that's not good. And you still think, or at least trying to present it so, that you were talking to a programming service, while you were not. While I do have a programming service, I don't offer it openly on this forum. On this forum I am just a regular member and you were talking with the same member as you are. You just decided to ask me privatedly rather than in open forum. I helped you when I had time and stopped when I had not anymore. And note that I did not promise or offer you anything. Would you blame anyone who quits a duscussion on the forum?
You only showed to everyone a good example of shady client not shoddy programmer.

Wookey

Personal offenses? Where?

No, I didn't think I was talking to a programming service, I thought I was talking to someone who offers to help people and would at least be honest and upfront if he decide to be selective and not do so w/ a particular person or persons. It was my fault for thinking so highly of you. For that, I apologize. I give folks way to much credit before I really know them based off things they say and do in the public eye. My mistake. Once again, good luck w/ your future ventures, be they charitable donations or for monetary gain.

oilfxpro · #54 (**permalink**) 02-18-2008, 01:59 PM

hI

i don't know where this programmer is nowadays

Programmer for hire - MQL4 forum

OILFXPRO

oilfxpro · #55 (**permalink**) 02-18-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Beluck

As many of you probably know, I provide custom programming service for several years now - Software solutions and custom programming - home
At first I worked this way - make and send compiled locked and expiration version to clients and after testing they paid me. With time I had more and more cases, when clients, seeing that EA for their systems does not produce profits, were "forgetting" to pay. This made me to change the policy and take some part of fee in advance, but the same stories were happening, they "forget" to pay the rest. No wonder, they could get the code decompiled for lesser money. But even now, I still encounter similar problems, as it is possible to claim a refund or chargeback from payment processor or bank.
I will post here some most annoying cases, so other programmers could see and avoid such clients.
I know, they can change names/emails/etc, but I'll post as much info as I have, so that changing identity would not be so easy for them.

Recently a person called Mr. Mohammed Walji contacted me urgently to buy my product EmailTradeSignals. He called and pushed me to send it to him urgently immediately after payment, even though it was almost midnight. I sent fully working product to him. In 10-15 minutes after that immediately he placed refund request on Plimus (after few emails I decided to not waste the time any more and refunded it). To me this looks as clear scam, even that he claims, that he don't need it and will not be using.
His details:
Remote Address :81.129.221.239
Country by ip address:United Kingdom
Title :Mr
Last Name :Walji
First Name :Mohammed
Address1 :[edited by newdigital]
City :London
Zip Code :HA98 QX
Country :uk (United Kingdom)
Emails :m.walji@stanmorefc.com, m.walji@ansaryouth.org.uk
Work Phone :[edited by newdigital]

more stories to come...

Participant walji - Automated Trading Championship 2007

newdigital · #56 (**permalink**) 02-27-2008, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Beluck

El Cid, post your stories with concrete names, facts, evidences, etc.
then other parties can post their evidences.
the purpose of such discussion is that other people would know facts about clients/programmers and would make own decision if it worth having business with them.
if you are afraid, that newdigital or whoever else will delete posts, then you are free to find any other forum and post there.

Hi Beluck,

I was thinking about this idea ...

If the programmer did some commercial coding somewhere and if it is not related to our forum - so it is not our case.

I am suggesting to you to open commercial thread about commercial coding here http://www.forex-tsd.com/commercial-...ms-indicators/
You are well-known and reputable coder and you coded many indicators and EAs. So you should have commercial thread on our forum. It is related to the other well-known and reputable coders (Kalenzo and many others).

And we are having evaluation rules for commercial services/threads. It means that every commercial thread should have evaluation thread here http://www.forex-tsd.com/evaluate-commercial-ideas/
What is evaluation thread? It is our forex-tsd thread about commercial thread. So, basicly clients may post any opinions in forex-tsd evaluation threads with full admins support. And commercial members (you for example) are the holders of commercial threads but they can post any opinion in evaluation threads a well.

Moderators can regulate commercial subject on the forum only by evaluation threads because evaluation threads are forex-tsd threads about commercial threads. Sorry for tautology as it looks like A = A and because of that A = A

But it is only way to regulate commercial subject and it is most related to the question: do the members of forex-tsd forum accept some particular commercial thread now or not ...

So, I simple wanted to say that your idea is already implemented.

I am suggesting to you to open commercial thread about your commercial coding. Other well-known and reputable programmers can do the same. And in this case this discussion about black list will be official one in corresponding evaluation threads for some particular commercial thread.

Beluck · #57 (**permalink**) 02-27-2008, 07:21 AM

newdigital, thank you for suggestion. maybe some day I will open my thread there.
but my interest in this thread here is to exchange with other programmers the names of unreliable clients. I think the thread for my services will not be the best place for this.
and clients can exchange here information about unreliable services.
it would be better to have everything in one place, than spread accross many commercial threads.
let's see how it goes. if there will be no interest and discussion here, then it will mean that local community does not need such info and you may delete this thread in few months after last post

bluto · #58 (**permalink**) 03-21-2008, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by oilfxpro

Post Reported and deleted

OILFXPRO

So this is what Forex-TSD has come down to? Allowing this El-Cid freak to openly slander and insult whomever he wants? Pretty pathetic I'm afraid. Someone needs to hog-tie this fool and stuff an oily rag into his gullet.

MiniMe · #59 (**permalink**) 03-21-2008, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bluto

So this is what Forex-TSD has come down to? Allowing this El-Cid freak to openly slander and insult whomever he wants? Pretty pathetic I'm afraid. Someone needs to hog-tie this fool and stuff an oily rag into his gullet.

Hi bluto ,

we know who you are , don't bother about this fool.

SIMBA · #60 (**permalink**) 03-25-2008, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluto

So this is what Forex-TSD has come down to? Allowing this El-Cid freak to openly slander and insult whomever he wants? Pretty pathetic I'm afraid. Someone needs to hog-tie this fool and stuff an oily rag into his gullet.

Bluto,

The Freak was permanently banned from tsd a couple weeks ago(after he posted his pathetic insult),banned too from FF,and from most other forums,actually,as you know better than me,oilysnaky posts only at strategybuilder and T2W..

The guy is just trash,his behaviour has proven this assertion beyond any shade of doubt,he is just an employee of a postcard selling company in the UK that passes himself as a pro trader...by his own public assertion at strategybuilder,his sexual life oscillates between masturbation and molestation of animals,which he prefers,or so he says...he has been banned from most forums and is considered the village idiot at the rest(with good reason

)...he stole "his" EAs from Igorad`s or from other forum members,then rehashed them...and they don`t work,because he is ,plainly,just incompetent....I decided not to waste any additional time on him at Strategybuilder,even if it was fun,because of its futility and repetitiveness..my suggestion,as somebody that appreciates you, is to forget about him and forgive him,since he is incapable of forgiving himself for being the kind of vulture he has become(with good reason too

)

I disagree with you about this forum...This Forum is much better than a couple months ago,thanks to Newdigital and Linuxser that have started to ban,temporarily or permanently,among others,these kind of individuals.

Deleting the offensive post should have been one of the steps to be taken and you should ask administrators to do so,since they didn`t do it when they should,probably because nobody flagged it..yet.

Regards
Simba

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