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Old 04-13-2007, 02:36 PM
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Your account was accessed from remoteip '89.253.29.211' and a pin was sent to the email address on the account. The person logged into your email account and retrieved the pin, accessed your e-gold account and made an unauthorized spend from the account.

It is Anatoliy Belostropov's IP. And that is the problem. It means, that somebody used his IP, logged into his e-mail and password to log in.

If somebody can help with that problem, i will appreciate that.

We will not use e-gold account until we will not solve this problem.
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Old 04-13-2007, 09:14 PM
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Sakharov, he may still be connected to that computer. A lot of hackers (script kiddies) don't remove their software after they do a hack, because they are dumb and sloppy. You can probably find what his IP address by closing all applications and then doing a netstat -an and looking for the IP addresses that are still connected. He probably only connects one in a while.

This is also why people need firewalls on their home computers. I recommend using Linux, or on windows doing Avast, Spybot, AdAware all for free. Avast is the main one, but it doesn't cover some spyware companies install to look at what you do or display ads. I also recommend turning off services in windows. I have about 25 services out of about 100 services running. Without USB devices or file sharing I could cut down another 10 services. 4 of my running services are Avast. Each service is a potential way for someone to break in. A network firewall is also recommended, hiding many computer by 1 IP address with no open ports.
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:29 PM
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The high and low data are very close to Reuters data which is good. The bar data looks very strange at some times. I can't recommend this broker for trades under 50 pips at this time. :/

WHC1.gif seems to be somewhat typical.
WHC3.gif seems to be extreme issues.
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Old 04-14-2007, 01:14 AM
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Appreciate your opinion daraknor.
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FSA blamed Freeze

I opened an Ib with these guys and sent some of my own company money to them , the next day they come out with this account freeze crap... I know they got screwed on that stupid egold scam I just hope that doesn't translate into me getting screwed as well.... Anyways if anyone wants to try them out let me know, I will split the rebates with you that I will get for you signing up through me. That is of course if the money becomes available next month.... they are a bunch of young Russian guys who trade themselves, they seem really nice and honest and they have been and are still IB's themselves. They Ib for companies that are quite particular about who the y let IB by the way. That post about the manual dealing during news kind of sucks though I was hoping for a free lunch on fixed spreads during the news (something that is impossible really) but I think I will get over it as long as I can withdraw funds sometime soon. Email me to keep informed and or pursue an account with them scott@forextradersinc.com

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Sakharov,
Which ECN does your signal come from? The futures contract is a good idea to keep your position neutral even if there is an excess of trades on buy or sell. I don't see how this means you only win if we win, you only loose if we loose. I do see how it means that the *extra* position we collectively have implies win or loss, and you buy futures to prevent excessive loss. If I were you, I would watch the 10% who win consistently to decide where to put my money.

Since you do have an aggregate position, you aren't really an ECN. The same game theory math of Dealing Desks apply. Your upstream signal may be an ECN (which is a good thing and I commend it) but we are still buffered from it. I'm undecided about your broker in general until I can look at the ECN data and compare it to your data. Large spikes are death to scalpers. Scalpers are death to your aggregate position even with the futures contracts. A true ECN has no position at all.

I look forward to helping you get your EGold money back. I am very interested in using your broker if I can resolve my questions. I need a real ECN signal, and I'm working on implementing FIX 4.2 with my strategy to actually get it.
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I've gone through dozens of charts over weeks of data, comparing it to other MT4 brokers, the yahoo signal, Dukascopy, etc. The data looks remarkably similar to everyone else, except it has spikes every so often that the others don't. With the spreads the way they look, I don't see how this an ECN. It certainly isn't an ECN according to any parts of this definition:
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STP (Straight Through Processing)

The practical application of this term is that it is the component of our platform that gives our customers the ability to route orders directly to liquidity pools of major banks.

By definition, just like clearing arrangements in the stock world, the FCM is still the counterparty to your trade. Your forex trades are cleared internally by MBTF, which means that we take all of the transactions between our customers and the banks in our system, compile them, pass the money between ourselves and the banks at the end of the day, and make sure our customer accounts reflect the executions that they received. A CUSTOMER does not have an agreement with the Interbank system. A platform like ours (EFX) has the agreement with the Interbank system. A customer simply runs trades, and the monies are cleared between banks and the platform once per day, with your execution being placed directly in your account. The fact that you can see where the liquidity lies, execute a trade immediately, and have that execution from the true market end up in your account is what makes the platform STP.
ECN (Electronic Communications Network)

The practical application of this term is that it is the component of our platform that allows our customers to directly interact with each other anonymously and post bids and offers at limits that reflect within our internal order book. These orders can be placed down to the tenth of a pip, thus cutting considerably into the spread.

In more specific terms, just like in the stock world with ARCA and ISLD, a Forex ECN allows client orders to see and execute against other customer orders anonymously. The benefit of having an ECN technology is that it eliminates the need to only fill orders against bank quotes which give our customers greater flexibility. For example, on our ECN, we allow our customers to place and execute orders against each other at increments down to the tenth of a pip. We often see STP platforms discussed as if they were ECN platforms. To be a true ECN, a platform must let customers show their own size in the system, make it visible to other customers, and allow those customers to hit those orders. This should facilitate “best execution”, be much smoother, and generates price competition.
No STP, No visible client-client operations, No purity of signal, Yes to Dealing Desk (MT4), Yes to strange spikes in data, Yes to News hour restrictions.
Straight through processing means executing at the market to me. I don't see how you can have a pip spread of 5 pips when multiple ECN I'm staring at have a spread of 1 pips. If the ECN were connected, the market would eat that in less than a second. Some groups who claim to be "ECN" do pad the spreads, but by a fixed amount (This is even allowed in the FIX Protocol).

2 Major disclaimers: I've never started a brokerage so I'm sure they know a lot more than I do. I haven't traded with WHC.

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Old 04-16-2007, 09:16 AM
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We are not ECN broker. I didn't tell it. Because, we are not.
90% loose, 10% win. It is our bread, it is the profit of the company.
There is an initial clearing of course.
If there is a big difference between positions (for example: buy 300 lots, sell 700 lots = difference sell 400 lots), we place the difference on primary market. So if you win, we will win too. But, i want to say, that it is very rare case. Because we have a lot of customers.
You can't see the DOM in the terminal. By the way, you will never be able to see it in MT. Questions to developers of the software.
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Old 04-16-2007, 09:19 AM
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I don't know any ECN broker, who uses MT.
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Old 04-16-2007, 10:09 AM
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From 03-07-2007:
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You forget that these are OTC markets (forex, cfd on futures, cfd on stocks).
That's why we can use our terms for trading.
All brokerage companies, dealing centers and so on, which offer OTC markets, earn money when YOU lose it. Because if you earn, THEY lose. That's why there is stop hunting, bad execution, bad quotes and so on.
Our company places difference between positions of our customers on primary markets. You earn, we earn. You lose, we lose. But we get commissions and part of spread.

Frankly speaking, i don't beleive in any interbank when we talk about forex. That's why for hedging forex we use currency futures on primary markets.

One more time: All the markets we offer, are OTC markets.
The more I study this, the more you sound like a standard MT4 broker with more instruments than normal. Some nice services, but nothing new in relationship or position.

I don't know of any ECN that uses MT4 either, especially since the ECN would require anonymous matching and Level 2 support. MT4 is purely retail broker, it doesn't even work with prime broker the way that FXAll does. One place I see you say STP, another STP on difference, another place I see you say futures contract on position difference. Obviously it can't be all of them.

What I need is an ECN, I spent about 12-15 hours investigating your broker to see if it was what I needed. It isn't, and I'm fine with that. I hope your business goes well. What I don't like is not getting a straight answer and wasting my time.

Something smelled a little funny about the ECN STP anyway. Alpari... err... MetaQuotes doesn't list what protocols they use for incoming signal. I'm looking for FIX protocol, Trading Technologies platform, or if I'm really desperate Zen-Fire. The platforms offered by CME and Reuters are a little too far up for my comfort. I doubt MT4 Server supports these, but I'm going to look into it anyway - it would save me a lot of programming.
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