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Old 02-22-2008, 11:24 AM
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mercilus opened this thread and named it. I can change the name of the thread with his agreement.
forex-tsd forum is not owned by Metaquotes and not connected with Metaquotes and Lenar is simple member here the same with you for example. If you want to foce him for reply - so send PM to him with the link of this thread (i think he is not reading whole the forum).
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Old thread but appropriate title.

Here is some real secret of metatrader (sorry link to another forum) that every metatrader trader should know about

MT4 Brokers' Virtual Dealer Plug-In
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Here is some real secret of metatrader (sorry link to another forum) that every metatrader trader should know about

MT4 Brokers' Virtual Dealer Plug-In
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Sorry I didn't know thread about this already existed. Feel free to delete my post.
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Here is some real secret of metatrader (sorry link to another forum) that every metatrader trader should know about

MT4 Brokers' Virtual Dealer Plug-In
Broker take control that's market maker motto ...just find less "broker take control" to trade

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not having seen this posted on this site, but seeing it everywhere else, perhaps one can understand why I never use stoplosses in my trading and that MT4 broker/dealer shennanigans are not simply urban legends !

MT4 Brokers' Virtual Dealer Plug-In

VERY interesting !!!!

enjoy and trade well

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Sooo...NewDigital...I ask you again....What do you think about what Metatrader has dreamed up for dealers?...How does this make you feel?

Your entire Forum is built up around Metatrader in which you are an administartor for...and many of us would like to hear from you.

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I don't know where this tool came from. May be from some broker, may be from Metaquotes ... I think Lenar should reply for clarification.

But I felt that broker is having something on their side to manage our trades ...they are increaing the spead during the news so they have some soft to do it in one mouse click ...and it is mostly related to the brokers, systems and money deposited: there are brokers for big money and there are brokers for small money (to deposit). The same with systems. And the traders can arise the noise on every broker's case ... so it is not easy for brokers to swindle with data/trades.
Because someone can say: "my broker manipulates my trades" so it is related to 4 questions:
- who is your broker;
- how much you deposited to them;
- who are you (there are 10,000 traders and your trades were maniplated only? so who are you? should be famous if other traders are keeping silence);
- and which system you are using.

If we (you or anyone) are having some system or EA and if this EA is winning money and very profitable so it depends on how much ... the broker will not support just for sure ... but will broker resist? or broker will allow us to make profit?
So, it is related to reputation of the broker, deposited money and system.

It was big discussion with MT3 many years ago about brokers manipulating the data and trades. But traders became more united with independent forums so it is not easy for the brokers to do it in simple way as this tool for example. Now they are floating aroud making some comments and saying something as
- "this EA is good" - but probable not;
- or "this Ea is bad" - but probable EA is good but for whom? For trader or for broker?
Just for example: you are posting something and some member is posting. You are independent trader and he is pobable not ... I think you understand what I mean: it is the same with real life and newspapers and TV and so on. Public place you know ...

If trader is making good money so the broker is not his friend and it is obviously. It depends on how much is making and reputation of the broker and it depends on how united the traders. I don't know exactl but I think that brokers support each other in some way. But in this case we must support each other and help each other. We should be united as a traders and it is our weapon.

Personally I have very few experience with data manupilation. But it is related to very small brokers: shifting the data, data holes/gaps, bars appears/disappears and so on. But I do not see big problems with big brokers.

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You can look at Alpari UK brokers forum: there is small thread about it with official broker' reply
MT4 Broker's virtual dealer plug-in - Alpari (UK)'s Forex and CFDs Forum
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I think it is important to note that MetaTrader licenses this sofware...What else will they allow? ...It is becoming apparant that the menu of licensed items available to dealers...reveals that MT4 is NOT on our side...

Why is that?

Is it that their marketing model reveals current needs indicating that they need to expand their dealer base?..AT OUR EXPENSE?

Remember traders.... they need US too!

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