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Old 03-29-2008, 03:56 PM
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I have not say anything bad about anyones religion or beliefs. All I said was your making a issue of Maxay's avatar base on your beliefs that it is in bad taste. For which I said; Get real, its a cartoon.

As for this thread I have ever right to ask questions and give comments about the subject matter discussed. And yes I have no intention to open an account with FxOpen. I have an forex account with a real brokerage company, for four years now, am happy with them. I was able to meet and talk with them face to face, not once but meny times and they are on the other side of the world from me. I see them at almost every trade show I attend (about 4 a year). I have made one deposit to the account and never had to add to or gotten a margin call. Withdrawals are two days wire to my bank, NEVER a problem. One condition only. I cannot have any open positions at time of request.

They have used one name sence day one. They have a real address, real phones, real owners, real company papers, and give real answers to your questions. As far as documentation goes. They require all paper work to be mailed to them(a real address), not sent on line to who knows were or who will end up with the information. Why do they require them to be mailed? One word REGULATION. They are regulated by real laws and will not break them for anyone. They even had no problem sending me their real annual financial statements! Hows that for a real company that REALly wants to do real business?

Will they be arround tomorrow? Who really knows for sure, but I can bet they will be arround longer then FxOpen. Apparently FxOpen change their name like one changes socks. Theres a reason for that guys!

I have not and will not give my brokers company names as I am not on their marketing staff. Everone here needs to do their own research based on their own requirements and the cold hard facts. Not counting on what ANYONE saids about the company not me or you. If a company does not or will not give REAL information about themselfs, you need ot hold tight to your money and move on. Not walk, but run.

Now as far as my above post to newdigital goes, You appear to be the very type I am talking about.


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Everyone has a right to choose, am I right? FXOpen has own customers group which need something more simple and easy than the broker you are talking about...small deposits, different methods of deposit/withdrawal (not everyone can use wire transfers), simple platform and tight (fixed) spreads. We do provide full privacy of private information as well.
So, if you have no intention an account with FXOpen and didn't have any before how come you judge about us?

I wish you great trades at your broker and I hope you can open an account with FXOpen to make your OWN opinion about us.
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Old 03-29-2008, 04:01 PM
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It is not fresh idea. As you know the brokers and most of commercial sellers were not co-operated with the forum (admins or any) in any way. They agreed even to be deleted by threads but they did not co-operate in informational and in any way. Not with admins, not with the members and nothing most of them (if we count existing + deleted). I deleted many commercial threads from the forum (more than 100 threads). You know that.
Sellers and brokers who want to present information will be presented on the Store. Others will be deleted soon or later.

So, any critics about the brokers and commercial products are helping a lot. But:
- in civilized manner and language;
- Essentially;
- if too much critics so in separated threads please. Open separated threads and post as many critics as you want. And other members will join and the scammers will be identified in early stage. Easy and effective. Because every thread is a "room" constructed by someone. Open your "room" and invite followers.
- if member is posting the critics many times about some broker/seller in his thread so it looks like promotional and marketing campaing: this thread is having 11,378 views mostly because someone posted same critics on broker's thread many time entertaining the other members and inviting them to see this broker's thread. 11,378 views!

I am not against promotion. I only againt some posts when one member is talking with the other one using bad manner. Because even if someone understands the other member as a scammer so he is still human being and not an animal. Because if I see when one member is talking with the other one in the same way as with the dog from the street so it is too much even for critical manner sorry.
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Old 03-29-2008, 04:24 PM
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So call me socially dysfunctional. I am sorry I am not a politician in which case I could talk all day long and say nothing as FxOpen does. I am not a smooth talker I say things the way they are. Now, I do have experance in this business and have seen a lot of scams. This one has all the markings of one. His refusal to answer direct questions only comfirms it. I have gone after others on this forum, in the past for trying to take advantige of the new trades here. Each one of their threads are gone. So you are right and have removed them. But the only way to stop potental scams is to confront them on THEIR thread not on another one. You have to ask the right questions and verify the answers. If one doesnot answer the questions on their thread they will not go to another one to answer. The new traders as well, will not see the connection between the two threads. I have asked questions and made statements, which you may think inapproperate at lease in wording or tone. What I say is to the point without beatting around the bush. If I received answers to questions in stead of smooth political nothing answers. I would of check out the if Fxopen was a real, legal brokerage. If he was legal it would of ended there with my first post. But a google search turns up nothing. So everone on this forum has to go by what is said on THIS thread. I have not gone after anyone in the past that was not prooven, at the end, to praying on the inexperance traders here. If FxOpen is real then he should post proof of a legal status. The way he is set up he can disappear in a moments notice without a trace, if things go badly for him. Only to start all over again in a different part of the world with the same invisiable venture and going after the same people that really donot know how this business works.

Suggestion. If you would like to improve peoples post then put two buttons on the reply screen. One to check spelling, for words people are not sure of there spelling and another one for a Thesaurus dictionary to find more approperate words to use.


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It is not fresh idea. As you know the brokers and most of commercial sellers were not co-operated with the forum (admins or any) in any way. They agreed even to be deleted by threads but they did not co-operate in informational and in any way. Not with admins, not with the members and nothing most of them (if we count existing + deleted). I deleted many commercial threads from the forum (more than 100 threads). You know that.
Sellers and brokers who want to present information will be presented on the Store. Others will be deleted soon or later.

So, any critics about the brokers and commercial products are helping a lot. But:
- in civilized manner and language;
- Essentially;
- if too much critics so in separated threads please. Open separated threads and post as many critics as you want. And other members will join and the scammers will be identified in early stage. Easy and effective. Because every thread is a "room" constructed by someone. Open your "room" and invite followers.
- if member is posting the critics many times about some broker/seller in his thread so it looks like promotional and marketing campaing: this thread is having 11,378 views mostly because someone posted same critics on broker's thread many time entertaining the other members and inviting them to see this broker's thread. 11,378 views!

I am not against promotion. I only againt some posts when one member is talking with the other one using bad manner. Because even if someone understands the other member as a scammer so he is still human being and not an animal. Because if I see when one member is talking with the other one in the same way as with the dog from the street so it is too much even for critical manner sorry.

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Old 03-29-2008, 04:43 PM
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Everyone has a right to choose, am I right? FXOpen has own customers group which need something more simple and easy than the broker you are talking about...small deposits, different methods of deposit/withdrawal (not everyone can use wire transfers), simple platform and tight (fixed) spreads. We do provide full privacy of private information as well.
So, if you have no intention an account with FXOpen and didn't have any before how come you judge about us?

I wish you great trades at your broker and I hope you can open an account with FXOpen to make your OWN opinion about us.
The only privacy and information your trying to keep private is yours, and there is a reason for that! Yes, you may or may not have good intentions to start with, but if things go wrong, your gone. Without a trace because you have not given enough information about yourself for us to even know who we are dealing with or were you are. And, your right, you are set up for the small guy; the new traders; the inexperanced ones; the ones that are so easy to pray on. My broker is not under the NFA but under the regulations of their country in which they live and work. If your placing yourself in an unknown magical mistry land without any regulations .... again, theres a reason for that. Isn't there?

I just hope those that have accounts with you that its totally RISK capital.


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...But the only way to stop potental scams is to confront them on THEIR thread not on another one...
Posting on the thread is increasing the popularity of the thread. Irrespective off the post: it can be bad post, or good post ... And usually any confrontation is increasing the popularity of the originator of the thread a lot. He is getting new clients more and more because of some critics on his thread. Did you see the discussion about how avatar is effecting on religions? Any originator of any thread wants for his thread to be interesting in any way. Especially the brokers and commercial sellers. Most bad thing for them is to be fully forgotten.

I do not know exact statistics but I think that 20% of the members are reading this forum using online translator. The others may be 40% do not have English as mother tongue and having diffculties with it. Do you think they all will read all 40 pages here trying to understand some insinuated posts?

If someone will create good thread about
brokers and scammers
and
what to check with broker
and
what to ask
and
how to estimate good/bad broker with examples
so I even can stick brokers critics thread in this brokers section. And I can tell to the people: "looking to the broker? Read brokers critics thread first".

Because commercial section (brokers are something about deposit money so it may be similar with commercial issue) was created for forex-tsd community: members who supported this forum a lot can use it. But you know: many unknown people came doing just first post as commercial one ...

Remember our talking about private groups? It was good idea: if something was developed inside the forum (in private groups section) so it is very easy to have opinion about it. We do not have it yet sorry.

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Old 03-29-2008, 05:26 PM
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The only privacy and information your trying to keep private is yours, and there is a reason for that! Yes, you may or may not have good intentions to start with, but if things go wrong, your gone. Without a trace because you have not given enough information about yourself for us to even know who we are dealing with or were you are. And, your right, you are set up for the small guy; the new traders; the inexperanced ones; the ones that are so easy to pray on. My broker is not under the NFA but under the regulations of their country in which they live and work. If your placing yourself in an unknown magical mistry land without any regulations .... again, theres a reason for that. Isn't there?

I just hope those that have accounts with you that its totally RISK capital.


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Its a nice day time for the beach, check you'al later.
Thanks god you say that opening accounts with FXOpen is a RISK, atleast it is better then to say that FXOpen will steal money for sure.
As I mentioned before people have a right to choose, thanks for the clients which choosed our company so they give us a chance to improve our services,we are nothing without our clients. Your broker have advantages which we do not have and we have advantages which your broker has not, so it is normall, it is business. Day after day, month after month there are people which post many critic posts without actuall experience with our company, all the posts are same : "you will be gone because you are bad , becasue I think so..." , FXOpen is still here, still working, paying, promoting, progressing. The team of FXOpen is experienced enough to keep business going year after year, just give us short time so we can add more services, get a license in one of the countries which you can trust

P.S. Have a good day at the beach.
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HAHA better not to come to cairo again coz alot of guys waiting you to be welcomed by guns.

Please let me know when you'll come and i will have the pleasure to be the 1st one who welcomed you ya basha 3ashan adfnk feha



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Wow!!! I have nothing against Maxey avatar...check again (eeeeasy), there was a question about avatar and I answered and said that it would be not very welcome in muslim society, thats all. By the way, I am not a muslim but I used to live in Cairo for 3 years and have some information and understanding about Islamic religion and I do respect it.

I hope enough of this?
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HAHA better not to come to cairo again coz alot of guys waiting you to be welcomed by guns.

Please let me know when you'll come and i will have the pleasure to be the 1st one who welcomed you ya basha 3ashan adfnk feha
Maxey do you understand what are you posting?
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Guys, keep it civil. Death threats and personal attacks are not the kind of thing that this forum's admin would appreciate.
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Maxey do you understand what are you posting?
this is all because you didn't pay him and removed all his trades by several time, because actually you're a scam company ...
no forex company have right to delete all trade. any trade, and claim you cheat us, you was suppose to pay him, then make him have hard trading time or close his account, but you did the worse scenario and create a lot of enemy for yourself ...
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