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Old 06-10-2009, 01:59 AM
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I am totally with you.

Metaquotes seems very short-sighted on this issue. I understand that metaquotes may try to make brokers happy (we retail traders are not preferred, I am ok with that.) but it is really stupid to neutralize MT4 fundamental advantage in order management for whatever purpose that I cannot think of.

this is NOT about HEDGING at all. Imagine in those trading funds, a professional trader is working. and he place a position, and later, he place another position, then these 2 positions merged together?????? what a stupid thing is that? and why our retail trader will have to use such a platform?

It will be very arrogant and paranoid for metaquotes to assume that retail traders will stick to MT5 just because of the name of "metatrader". I won't do it anyway.

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Of course not, but why they have a big success on retail FX where many brokers use they platform? They are now removing one of the main the reasons of this success.

When brokers start to loose client base because of MT5 (and I am no doubt that this happen, as getting rid off multiply strategies support on a single account is IMHO shoot in the foot) then there probably a new solution pop up as the nature don't like emptiness. There was a trading before metatrader there will be trading after it.
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Old 06-10-2009, 02:02 AM
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Although your suggestion looks like full of wisdom, you just don't understand what the issue is at all. Either you are so lazy to read, or you are illiterate on mql4 programming/MT4 application.

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JUST CHANGE YOUR STRATEGY !!

There are plenty good and profitable strategy just in this forum which are not using hedging. Maybe is time for your to look for an other profitable strategy.

The end of hedging is not the end of trading !!!
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Old 06-10-2009, 05:19 AM
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platform should support it. end of discussion. you guys at MQ... is it that hard to make one more options item... hedging enabled/disabled?

I can't believe it will be this way... I mean... if you're serious about one position per currency (as preset option by platform) I can't stop laughing...
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Old 06-10-2009, 05:21 AM
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integrate notepad to MT5 please as well... this can't be possibly right... I wonder what will happen to all magic numbers...

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Old 06-10-2009, 08:41 AM
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Lenar, are you saying there will be no pyramiding of positions in one direction?

That just can't be. It doesn't make sense to prevent it. Could you please explain with concrete examples of what sort of positions will be possible and what sort of positions will not be possible?
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:21 AM
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I believe it is more likely that FOREX brokers supported this NFA

What this one position really does, is open the nedge (newbie hedge) stylled trader to greater risk, as this statement found elsewhere says:

"“Recently the NFA issued new regulations prohibiting traders from hedging (having long and short positions open on the same currency pair at the same time). We realize that said regulatory changes will affect the trading style of many customers. As a solution, IBFX’s MultiTrader 4 allows users to easily manage multiple accounts at once; via this new trading tool you are able to go short in one account and long in another or vice versa!”
The message went further to explain margin implications by reminding IBFX clients, “Keep in mind when using this tool, you are now operating in two separate accounts, and thus, margin rules will behave differently. Formally, additional margin was not required when hedging open positions. Going forward, traders utilizing MultiTrader 4 as a hedging tool will be required to post margin on both sides of the trade, thus increasing the risk of a margin call.”

These rules were supposably to protect the newbie, but instead as shown by these brokers, it probably exposes the newbie to greater risk.

So, in addition to FX Solutions, FXDD, GAIN, FXCM, and Tradeview; Interbank FX has joined the ranks of brokers offering solutions to the hedging regulation.""
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Lenar, are you saying there will be no pyramiding of positions in one direction?

That just can't be. It doesn't make sense to prevent it. Could you please explain with concrete examples of what sort of positions will be possible and what sort of positions will not be possible?
The reason I believe there will be no pyramiding of positions is:
With pyramided positions, you will be required to take profit or stop loss before you can trade in other direction.
Hence you will be exposing yourself to a lot of risk.

MT5 brokers (generally not traders) will be helped by this ONE position trade system set up.
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check your brain....

hi guys (some of you),

let me think that your brain is unplugged !!!!
Some of you complaint about new rules (nfa) and the end of complex strategies.
Let me laugh.
If you are looking at forex, that (should) meant that you are old enough and can prove your knowledge in mathematics.

You don't understand what i'm saying ?

Forex is like a building: many doors and windows. If the mains are locked, then look at the others !!!
Simple don't you.
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hi guys (some of you),

let me think that your brain is unplugged !!!!
Some of you complaint about new rules (nfa) and the end of complex strategies.
Let me laugh.
If you are looking at forex, that (should) meant that you are old enough and can prove your knowledge in mathematics.

You don't understand what i'm saying ?

Forex is like a building: many doors and windows. If the mains are locked, then look at the others !!!
Simple don't you.
So sad and useless.
you people (some of you) really deserve to be scr..ed up by brokers.

Who said that the change in rules or in the platform will prevent us to keep on trading?

Is it possible to express opinions without you "gurus" spitting out statements without any form of logical support?
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[quote=aurigafx;282063]As far as I can see from the order management shown, there won't be possible to hedge orders anymore.
Also running different eas could result in a complete mess.
Just imagine if you have an ea working on a daily strategy and another working on the same pair on 5m timeframe. On a retracemen of d1 the 5m will close the position (if of the same size).
Am I getting it right? QUOTE]

You not right - MT5 simply will show truth... if you have 1.0 buy and 1.0 sell it ALWAYS ZERO position... this so called hedges is biggest gift for brokers... just think about it...
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