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Old 05-02-2007, 03:21 PM
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Hedge-ring/triangular/basket

Hi!

I have today been thinking about some hedge-ideas. I know that there is something that calls hedge-ring that includes more then 2 pairs to hedge up for one another.
I have read somewere (don't remeber were) that this kind of rings works best with AUD/USD involved.



Anyway... I can't find any links to some of these systems. Would some one please help me out? I have searched not only in this forum but i just can't fins any... maby i enter wrong words in the search box...?

The closes i have found is: http://www.goldenmoneytree.com/forum...opic.php?t=755



Well... one more question. These kind of hedge rings are they used only for the swap or is it possible that it can move in favour for you so that the spread is not just overcomed but you even end up with profit in pips?



/ JoLi
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:32 PM
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Hi Joli,

Please check this (FPI) predictive price
Hope this help.

Cheers,
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Old 05-04-2007, 07:01 AM
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Thank you kindly But that kind of hedge is not what i aksing for. That kind of Swap-hedge i allready doing. I now whant to exteend my hedge and test out something different.
Something like:

Buy 1 GBP/JPY
Sell 1 GBP/USD
Sell 2 CHF/JPY

But i want more suggestions....
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Old 05-04-2007, 09:51 AM
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Try hedging this 4 pairs.

buy GBP/JPY 1.1 lot
sell CHF/JPY 1 lot
sell GBP/USD 1.2 lot
sell USD/CHF 1.2 lot

Just like you wanted. You can gain from swap and gain pips from their price differencial if price move in your favor.

or you can use a software to help you calculate lot size allocation for correlation hedge.
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Old 05-04-2007, 12:17 PM
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What software are you talking about

Sam
what software are you talking about ?
can you attach it



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Try hedging this 4 pairs.

buy GBP/JPY 1.1 lot
sell CHF/JPY 1 lot
sell GBP/USD 1.2 lot
sell USD/CHF 1.2 lot

Just like you wanted. You can gain from swap and gain pips from their price differencial if price move in your favor.

or you can use a software to help you calculate lot size allocation for correlation hedge.
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:53 PM
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Sam
what software are you talking about ?
can you attach it
Sorry Todd, I can't attach the software. I might violate the forum rules. You have to subscribe for it, It's a very wellknown software for hedge trading.

Instead, I attached the possible outcome of the 4 currency pair and lot size allocation I suggested to jolimoney earlier.
Attached Files
File Type: htm 4 currency pair hedge.htm (30.5 KB, 185 views)

Last edited by sam1; 05-04-2007 at 02:59 PM.
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:50 PM
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What software are you using

What software are you using ? forexforsmarties or freedom rocks or others ?



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Sorry Todd, I can't attach the software. I might violate the forum rules. You have to subscribe for it, It's a very wellknown software for hedge trading.

Instead, I attached the possible outcome of the 4 currency pair and lot size allocation I suggested to jolimoney earlier.
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Old 05-04-2007, 06:20 PM
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^ FreedomRocks. But the above "lot ratio" I shared has nothing to do with FR. Different approach with same logic, it basically buying and selling the 4 major currency all at the same time while earning swap.

I just gave the thread starter 2 choices.
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sam1:

Thank you for your help

Do you know any other pairs to use in a hedge-ring? The more posibilities the better.

/ JoLi
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Old 05-06-2007, 06:08 PM
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You're welcome.

As far as hedging correlated pairs is concern, the safest pairs to hedge are eur/usd and usd/chf, though low volatility and lesser swap gain, those are the safest.

You can add gbp/usd to the 2 currency pairs I've mentioned for a little more volatility. I personally don't hedge the 3 major pairs, because sometimes 1 of those pair will go off the range, and the hedge will be off, like what happened during mid of March, the cable (gbp/usd) was heading north but the euro (eur/usd) was just ranging for days and swissy (usd/chf) was heading south. It is completely out of hedge.

It is also very important to pay attention to fundamentals when hedging. If you heard or found information that carry trade is unwinding (like last Feb. 23, global financial turmoil) stop hedging.
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