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Old 02-23-2006, 06:49 AM
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Talking simple hedging system...

hello,

i've a strategy but it still unperfect

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buy and sell on daily open price everday...
i suggest to put hedge position at -15 loss position
for example
close price : 1.1900
so it will open buy at 1.1902 (spread : 2) (order #1)
open sell at 1.1900 (order #2)

then the price raises to 1.1915
it will open buy position at 1.1915 to lock the Order #2

the best scenario is eurusd still raise until closed at 1.2000
i will get 85 pips (the position wil force-closed every 00:00). with locked loss -15, so it gives 70 pips profit.

the second scenario is
the price moves up to 1.2000 then fall to 1.1800,
i suggest to use trailing stop/stepping take profit (profit 30 lock 15, profit 60 lock 45)..
it will gives about 85 from buy position and 100 pips from sell position, minus 2x -15 = 185-30 pips = 155 pips (in a day).

the worst scenario, is the price ranging at 1.1915
if i use an EA, it will open-close-open-close that will cost huge spread. i wonder if there any technique to solve that.

notes: if the hedge position was opened, then the price reverse, it will be closed, and if the price reverse again, it will openede again.
basicly, i want to lock -15 pips loss by hedge it.

basicly, i want to loss around 15-30 pips only... but i will get a huge loss from spread.

any suggestion ?

thank you

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23 feb 06
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open buy** & sell*** at 00.00
then price going up, open another buy position*
then price reverse, then close that buy position*
up & down at the open-line
then moving up again, open another buy position*
until buy** reach 50 pips, maybe we should close the position ?...
then moving down... buy position* should be closed
lower and lower until open-15pts should be open a sell position **** to hedge buy** position, but if the buy position** was closed, you don't need to open a sell position
then the price going up... the sell position **** should be closed (if opened)
raising and raising, then open buy position ***** , then close again *****
then the day ends, profit :
50 pips from the closed buy position **
20-25 pips loss from the sell position * (forced closed)
hope it will clear my strategy

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Old 02-23-2006, 06:52 AM
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Thumbs up Hi white_tiger

Have you used this system before?
This strategy seems interesting to me but I have to look more into it.
I am very interested in this "mathematical" strategies.
Please tell me if you have used this strategy (and give me the results).

I will try to improve this system... . I'm thinking maybe using a Moving Average (on Open Price) to avoid repeated open-close-open-close by the EA.

I will keep you informed on this.
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i never test... idea about this system just come few hours ago ....
i just look the past chart, and seems profitable...
i also haven't calculated how many spreads will eat my profit for each day
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Hi

I have just created an indicator (in fact, I modified other indicator) to plot a Daily Open horizontal line. This way it will be much easier to check this system.
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Old 02-23-2006, 10:04 AM
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Unhappy I can't figure it out, white_tiger

I'm sorry white_tiger, but it seems that this system isn't as good as we thought. ...
If I can figure out something, I will post here.


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i never test... idea about this system just come few hours ago ....
i just look the past chart, and seems profitable...
i also haven't calculated how many spreads will eat my profit for each day
Hello,

message already posté(par you) on another forum : Here
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thanks for indicator, btw you can also use indocators called "hedgetest" at the brunoFX's link.

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I will post here.
i'm waiting your post.
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I also like hedging and mathematically based strategies. A lot of people will say that hedging will only bring ruin eventually. I disagree. I think a proper hedging system can be quite powerful and effective. I am convinced that it is possible to develop a successful strategy that involves hedging. Hopefully we can work together here to try and do that.
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