Simbasystem-gbpusd - Page 65

SIMBA · #**641** (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 12:56 PM

Hi All,

3 new signals ..there was an "almost" signal in GBPJPY,obviously not included..please see attached

Malcik..one question(again

),probably I am mistaken but I think that in the EA we are stopped when the price touches the chandelier,without waiting for the hourly close for confirmation,if that is so..can it be corrected,or even better added as a new feature?..so we can test the 2 options for chand..hourly close or just touched

Regards
Simba

SIMBA · #**642** (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 02:05 PM

Hi All,

update on 3 previous signals..2 very positive,the other positive but with lots of emotion..guess which one

?..please see attached

Interesting the divergent behaviour of usdchf,eurusd(not included

) and gbpusd..mmm..what will be the solution?

Have a nice week end
Simba

SIMBA · #**643** (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 02:42 PM

Hi popok_sakti

QUOTE "I also added extern variable for exiting position, based on if touched or wait until candelier confirm it on the next hour ( as simba suggested )"

Thanks..A lot..confirm it on the next hour means at the open (so,equivalent to the close of actual hour)..I presume..please confirm

Have a nice week end you too
Simba

SIMBA · #**644** (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 03:34 PM

Hi Malcik,

QUOTE : "This is what I don't like about Forex, that there are two prices. In futures for example, there's just one price that is used for measuring the potential and managing the trades... and everyone pays the comission later. He doesn't want the market to give him both profit and comission. "

In Futures you have bid and ask too,for example in Tbonds(very liquid market) it is one tick(31.25 $,per contract)..when you called the floor for a direct quote you never told them your intention(buy/sell) you just requested a quote for 20 contracts..and what you heard was 103.00/01..so,if you wanted to buy your inmediate reply was"buy 20 at 01"..then,after you closed the trade you still had to pay the commission..

In a competitive market(Forex and Futures dealers are competing for our money) the price differences tend to be soft..30$(3 pips) for 100k usdjpy
is practically the same as 31.25 $ (1 tick) for 100k Tbonds..and you don`t pay the commission..

The real trick,for brokers,in Forex ,is the carry trade(the swap),when you are running a position carry trade positive(long usdjpy) they accrue you usd libor less x and they charge you jpy libor+y
and they pay you the net difference..when you run carry trade negative they accrue you jpylibor +x and they charge usd libor less y..

The net effect is that they charge you 2 pips per lot per day(including week ends) if you are short,and they pay you .5 pips per lot when you are long..

Now Imagine a broker,end of day ,close 118.00,open positions long usdjpy are 100 mm$,short usdjpy positions will usually be between 70 and 130mm$..let`s say 100mm$ to average..in that case he is not using any money..his customer`s longs(+100mm$,-11800mmyen) compensate his customer`s shorts(-100mm$,+11800mm yen)and he is earning a net1.5 pips(2 pips they get from shorts less .5 pip they pay to longs)(15 bucks) on 1000 open lots(100mm divided by 100k standard lot)..so he earns 15kusd for free every day,even the week ends..besides the initial spread 30$*1000*2(for the longs and for the shorts)..60k$..

Now,if the average life span of a position is 4 days..what this really means is that the real cost of an AVERAGE usdjpy position is 6 pips(the broker earns
60k initial spread plus 4(days)*15k(per day) total 120k for 2000 lots(1000(longs)+1000(shorts) )..so he earns 60 bucks(6 pips )per AVERAGE lot

Obviously the cost for the long customer is 3pips less 2 pips(4(days)*.5(pips positive carry)..total cost 1 pip

And the cost for the short customer is 3pips+8 pips(4(days)*2)pips negative carry)..total 11 pips..

Regards
Simba

popok_sakti · #**645** (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 10:51 PM

Hi Simba,

Basically, I have re-arrange Malcik code in trailing the stop loss using ChandelierStops, so it will active only if We want to use chandelier if touched is true & also in OrderSend process

In Malcik code, the ChandelierStops use period H1 and checking 1 bar ago. So, I think will take action after the current bar close OR at open of the next bar

Best Regards,
Popok

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIMBA

Hi popok_sakti

QUOTE "I also added extern variable for exiting position, based on if touched or wait until candelier confirm it on the next hour ( as simba suggested )"

Thanks..A lot..confirm it on the next hour means at the open (so,equivalent to the close of actual hour)..I presume..please confirm

Have a nice week end you too
Simba

frantacech · #**646** (**permalink**) 03-10-2007, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malcik

frantacech: Welcome on board, Czech crew now increasing in numbers to two... At zije financnik.cz

Ahoj, diky za praci kterou tomu zde venujes!
Pokusim se byt aspon trosku napomocny.

46 2832.50 44 2.59 64.38 570.00 7.70% ChandDist_Min=15 ChandDist_Max=120 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
49 2624.00 32 3.54 82.00 400.00 5.07% ChandDist_Min=30 ChandDist_Max=120 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
48 2584.00 34 3.13 76.00 420.00 5.66% ChandDist_Min=25 ChandDist_Max=120 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
47 2567.50 40 2.58 64.19 425.00 5.90% ChandDist_Min=20 ChandDist_Max=120 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
50 2564.00 28 4.11 91.57 400.00 5.11% ChandDist_Min=35 ChandDist_Max=120 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
35 2557.50 42 2.44 60.89 570.00 7.84% ChandDist_Min=15 ChandDist_Max=110 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
24 2557.50 42 2.44 60.89 570.00 7.84% ChandDist_Min=15 ChandDist_Max=100 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
13 2557.50 42 2.44 60.89 570.00 7.84% ChandDist_Min=15 ChandDist_Max=90 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
45 2422.50 49 2.04 49.44 770.00 10.70% ChandDist_Min=10 ChandDist_Max=120 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
2 2422.50 41 2.36 59.09 570.00 7.99% ChandDist_Min=15 ChandDist_Max=80 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
38 2349.00 30 3.27 78.30 400.00 5.26% ChandDist_Min=30 ChandDist_Max=110 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
27 2349.00 30 3.27 78.30 400.00 5.26% ChandDist_Min=30 ChandDist_Max=100 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
16 2349.00 30 3.27 78.30 400.00 5.26% ChandDist_Min=30 ChandDist_Max=90 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
37 2309.00 32 2.90 72.16 420.00 5.76% ChandDist_Min=25 ChandDist_Max=110 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
26 2309.00 32 2.90 72.16 420.00 5.76% ChandDist_Min=25 ChandDist_Max=100 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
15 2309.00 32 2.90 72.16 420.00 5.76% ChandDist_Min=25 ChandDist_Max=90 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
36 2292.50 38 2.41 60.33 425.00 6.02% ChandDist_Min=20 ChandDist_Max=110 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
25 2292.50 38 2.41 60.33 425.00 6.02% ChandDist_Min=20 ChandDist_Max=100 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
14 2292.50 38 2.41 60.33 425.00 6.02% ChandDist_Min=20 ChandDist_Max=90 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
39 2289.00 26 3.77 88.04 400.00 5.30% ChandDist_Min=35 ChandDist_Max=110 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
28 2289.00 26 3.77 88.04 400.00 5.30% ChandDist_Min=35 ChandDist_Max=100 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
17 2289.00 26 3.77 88.04 400.00 5.30% ChandDist_Min=35 ChandDist_Max=90 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4
51 2264.50 23 4.90 98.46 400.00 5.32% ChandDist_Min=40 ChandDist_Max=120 MA_Type=1 JMA_HMA_Period=13 JMA_Phase=0 WPR_Period=90 TPPips=355 LotSize=0.5 MaximumRisk=0 pips=10 spread_limit=6 wpr_top_limit=-5 wpr_bottom_limit=-95 atr_period=106 atr_divider=4

el cid · #**647** (**permalink**) 03-10-2007, 04:43 PM

Simba

Jambo

Namuna Gani?

Weh Majuri?

What is the profitability of this method over the last two years?

What is the average daily profit in pips?

What was the maximum drawdown in pips?

How many consecutive losing/winning trades?

A system can be profitable but some systems tend to blow accounts several times ....before they go into profit.I read somebody blew their account on this system

Nobody should trade any system until they have the above information

Regards

El cID

frantacech · #**648** (**permalink**) 03-10-2007, 05:04 PM

I send small modify version.

Logic and all identical with version SimbaSystemM1v1.2.b.mq4, but

added any design features - show ATR TP, Leverage, etc. AND added Stop After No Trades options - If switch TRUE, EA dont open new trade.

Malcik · #**649** (**permalink**) 03-10-2007, 06:10 PM

Hi popok and franta,

Thanks for your updates. I made another one - there were some errors regarding the SL and TP computations due to spread that I talked about in my recent post; I corrected it.

Simba, therefore, the answer is yes

Please do a couple of visual checks - at my computer it's like that but please check it for yourself just to make sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIMBA

Hi,

Malcik:I only want to know if the EA as it is reflects real market conditions..if chand is 1.9500 bid and we are stopped out from a short..I presume that the EA buys(closes our position) at 1.9504(for a spread of 4)..is that so?
If WPR gives an entry ,long, signal at -95 and price is at 1.9400 bid I presume we buy at 1.9404..is that so?

Popok_sakti :thanks to you for your cooperation..

Take care with the sun..the Van Helsings are coming..

Regards
Simba

Malcik · #**650** (**permalink**) 03-10-2007, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by popok_sakti

Hi Malcik,

Thank you for your reply,

I think We should change ( for buy ) it to :

(Ask<=LastBuyPrice-pips*Point && AllowReentries)

& for sell :

(Bid>=LastSellPrice+pips*Point && AllowReentries)

& leave the other as it is.

if( LongTrades==0 ||
(Ask<=LastBuyPrice-pips*Point && AllowReentries)
)
{
if(SATL>SATL_Prev &&
(Close[0]>=SATL) // || !UseSATLFilter)
&& Chandelier_Up!=EMPTY_VALUE
&& Chandelier_Dn==EMPTY_VALUE
&& Close[0]>=Chandelier_Up+ChandDist_Min*Point
&& Close[0]<=Chandelier_Up+ChandDist_Max*Point
&& WPR<=wpr_bottom_limit
)
....
}
From the above example, it will check the ( Ask<=LastBuyPrice-pips*Point && AllowReentries ) first because buy is depend on Ask price for opening position ( especially for adding a new position ), if it is Ok, it will check using other criteria as usual ( no need to change ) :

if(SATL>SATL_Prev &&
(Close[0]>=SATL) // || !UseSATLFilter)
&& Chandelier_Up!=EMPTY_VALUE
&& Chandelier_Dn==EMPTY_VALUE
&& Close[0]>=Chandelier_Up+ChandDist_Min*Point
&& Close[0]<=Chandelier_Up+ChandDist_Max*Point
&& WPR<=wpr_bottom_limit
)

for example GBPUSD (long position), first position, We buy at 1.9326, and now the quote it says Bid : 1.9316 and Ask : 1.9326 ( spread = 10 pips )
So, using the Close[0]<=LastBuyPrice-10*Point, it will be successful and go to the next checking
but if We use : (Ask<=LastBuyPrice-pips*Point && AllowReentries), it will not pass from the begining of the checking

But I will check the code again, Maybe I'm in the wrong side .. hehehe

I also added extern variable for exiting position, based on if touched or wait until candelier confirm it on the next hour ( as simba suggested )

I attach the modified version

Have a nice weekend to all of you guys

Best Regards
Popok

Hi popok,

I checked the source code of your 1.2b modification. I like it, thanks for doing it. About the LastBuyPrice etc. -- the way you did it the results will be exactly same like the way I did it; yours is more logical. But I found another issue:

Why did you comment out the !UseSATLFilter? This way it would be impossible to turn this filter off.

Code:

         if(SATL>SATL_Prev && 
         (Close[0]>=SATL) // || !UseSATLFilter) 
         && Chandelier_Up!=EMPTY_VALUE 
         && Chandelier_Dn==EMPTY_VALUE 
         && Close[0]>=Chandelier_Up+ChandDist_Min*Point 
         && Close[0]<=Chandelier_Up+ChandDist_Max*Point 
         && WPR<=wpr_bottom_limit
         )

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