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Old 03-01-2007, 10:14 PM
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Hi everybody,

I obtained a tutorial that teaches to get 90% quality data (MT4).
The creator was Hendrick (from thread Phoenix 2007).
I hope it helped.


Thanks...

Angelo
Hi pilofe,

Great to hear that you are willing to contribute, we are all looking forward to your results.
As far as the tutorial, again, thanks. I know how to import the data - like I wrote, I have it working for M1, H4, D1, W1, and MN timeframes. For some strange reason, the Period Converter just starts messing up for TFs M5 through H1. It only converts certain amount of bars that go back only like a couple of months, not 2.5 years.
It used to work at my computer, now it doesn't, I don't know the reason. I have separate Alpari MT4, so when it connects and downloads new data, they come from the same source as the imported ones.
I admit though that I've heard some rumors about hidden bugs that can't be gotten rid of, that just need to be accustomed to... like reinstalling the whole MT4 when something is not working... I'll try to do this (and never let MT4 connect) and if it still doesn't work, I give up

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Old 03-01-2007, 10:19 PM
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1-Yes ,I agree with you,the first important step is for somebody replicate/disprove my tests,you know as well as me that strategy tester can be a beast difficult to tame,though this time I have been able to replicate my own tests without exception,it is better if somebody else can confirm them before proceeding
Yes I know, we now have pilofe, and maybe me -- if I succeed importing the stupid data

2-I am actually not testing-I will test in the weekend-but there are things i didn`t post yet,from previous week end testing,basically I am testing the different tfs of Chand(from 15m to d1..30 m looks very promising..pending further tests) and my own dig filter simbasatl which is faster than satl,but slower than fatl,and gives much smoother returns(for cable,not so for usdchf )..really your Ea is easy to modify,I just substitute simbasatl for sat,or fatl,etc,same for Chandelier periods,in addition i want to use nonlagma,since we can create a satl like filter with phase tweaking,and a special jma "digitally filterized"that I found in a russian forum and looks promising..
Well you are playing a higher league than me I've seen pictures of SimbaSATL and other SimbaStuff around here but I don't think we've elaborated on these in some larger extent. When you have some conclusions after the weekend, please post so that we can narrow down our view and concentrate our testing and thinking to this narrower view.

3-Yourproblemownload another mt4,just for testing,save it in program files/mt4B..directory,use it only for testing,without connection..copy all your experts folder to the new terminal,download the Alpari data ,and follow the proceedings for 1m,when you are done,open offline gbpusdm,then go to navigator/scripts/period converter.open,change period to 5..ok,then ok again,wait 2 or 3 minutes..double click again to period converte,say yes to what they ask you ,change period to 15,same process..to 30..etc,etc..it works perfectly,as long as you don`t connect..then new data erases the old
Just mentioned in my previous post... I'll keep trying

Hope it helps
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Hi Simba, great to hear from you again Please see my answers in your quote above.
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Old 03-01-2007, 10:53 PM
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Hi pilofe,

Great to hear that you are willing to contribute, we are all looking forward to your results.
As far as the tutorial, again, thanks. I know how to import the data - like I wrote, I have it working for M1, H4, D1, W1, and MN timeframes. For some strange reason, the Period Converter just starts messing up for TFs M5 through H1. It only converts certain amount of bars that go back only like a couple of months, not 2.5 years.
It used to work at my computer, now it doesn't, I don't know the reason. I have separate Alpari MT4, so when it connects and downloads new data, they come from the same source as the imported ones.
I admit though that I've heard some rumors about hidden bugs that can't be gotten rid of, that just need to be accustomed to... like reinstalling the whole MT4 when something is not working... I'll try to do this (and never let MT4 connect) and if it still doesn't work, I give up

Thanks again

Hi Malcik,

I think that I can help. This occurred with me.
When I started to convert my data, I perceived that the main thing is the time in the conversion. If you not to wait at least 1 minute in the conversion of each TF, probably you will not have all the data converted correctly. This occurs mainly in the lesser TF, therefore they possess greater amount of data and they require greater time. The biggest TF, that are OK for you, does not need as much time.
I suggest that you excludes all the data and it recommences following these tips.
Sorry my English...

Hope it help.

Angelo

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Hi all,

I need JMA and HMA indicators to execute the tests.

Somebody has these indicators?

Thanks...

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Hi All,

Test results of Simbasystem5m and several alternative filters...

PERIOD:From 16/June/2004 to 23/February/2007 on 5M tf

- Used the same period (Alpari’s Data).

Comments: 1-TP and SL set at 1000 pips intentionally A- to check the viability of the system basic parameters ie:trend filter and entry by wpr B-to estimate the max profit,avg profit,max loss,avg loss

- Used TP=1000 pips (alteration of the code source) and SL= not modified (original system).

2-ALL alternatives have been tested under the same parameters as the basic system in order to be able to determine ,if any,the best alternative filter

- Only tested the SATL 4H filtering on 5M TF

3-ALL alternatives,including the basic system, have been tested with the 10/50 Chandelier rule estimated by Malcik in his preliminary tests

- Equal.

Conclusions: 1-The only profitable system is the simbasystem,as originally devised,with SATL 4H filtering
2-All other tested alternatives JMA 13,JMA 13 PHASE 100,JMA 25,JMA 35,JMA 45,HMA 45,HMA 50...ARE UNPROFITABLE,and destroy the account value
3-The profitable system has low level of profitable trades,basically the ratio of max win,vs max loss is what creates the profitability in the system
4-Although the account duplicated in value,the profit factor is only 1.21,so,the system is difficult to trade(to earn 21k you must earn121k and lose 100k)

- My test was not good


If somebody,please can check,with the same 90% data quality,for the full period tested,the validity of the results,please be so kind to do so

THE REPORTS YOU WILL FIND ATTACHED ARE:

SIMBASYSTEM5M:SATL 4H filtering on 5M tf
5MJMAPH0: 4H JMA13PERIODS,PHASE 0 filtering on 5M tf
JMA5M100PH:4H JMA13PERIODS PHASE100 filtering on 5M tf
JMA35PH0&JMA45PH0:4H JMA35/45 PERIODS PHASE 0 filtering on 5M tf
HMA50:4H HMA 50 PERIODS filtering on 5M tf

Simba
Hi all,

Sorry not analyze the data better.
In the weekend I will make other tests and I will explain better.

Thanks...

Angelo

PS.: Malcik, I suggest add versions to the created EA.
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HI SIMBA.

DO WE GET A SIGNAL ON THE USDJPY?

Can we Set Alarm In William's Percent Range?
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HI SIMBA.

DO WE GET A SIGNAL ON THE USDJPY?

Can we Set Alarm In William's Percent Range?
Hi,

1-No signal according to my pic,though according to yours it is,different data providers,these things happen,and the system has enough flexibility to consider them irrelevant,so demotrade it if you want..in addition please note that the situation of price versus satl(price above red satl ) makes it a dangerous one

2-page 25 of this thread there is a wpr with alarm,posted by zathar for gbpusd5m..a few pages ago i posted the same modified for gbpusd1m,usdjpy5m,eurjpy5m,usdchf5m

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Old 03-02-2007, 07:12 AM
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Hi all,

Sorry not analyze the data better.
In the weekend I will make other tests and I will explain better.

Thanks...

Angelo

PS.: Malcik, I suggest add versions to the created EA.
Pilofe,

Thanks for helping with the tests..and for the comments addressed to Malcik regarding the data conversion,I had exactly the same experience as you,it is a question of waiting not 20 seconds but around 2 to 5 minutes per conversion..

One comment,please understand it is very important..I used tp 1000 as you did,and sl1000,that you didn`t..so,it is impossible to replicate my results..I understand you wanted to help,but what we need is to replicate the tests..EXACTLY AS I DID THEM ,to prove/disprove,not my tests,but the value of the strategy tester

The reason why of using these settings was to test the"pure" value of the different proposed trend filters vs each other,so that when we have the best one,we can adapt new tp and sl strategies and improve on them..STEP BY STEP,first the basis and then the additions..

I have to ask you for a favour..could you,please,redo your test with exactly the same parameters as I did?Before the week end?..if only for satl is ok,we just want to check that the strategy tester doesn`t play games with data,because if itplays them..we can not test,all tests will be invalid

Thanks in advance
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Old 03-02-2007, 08:57 AM
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Hi all,

I need JMA and HMA indicators to execute the tests.

Somebody has these indicators?

Thanks...

Angelo
Hi Pilofe,

Please find attached the indicators you requested

Regards
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Hi Simba and everyone,

I'm back from my ski vacation in Austria and am now ready again to continue working.

Simba, thanks for the interesting backtests and other thoughts that you posted. It looks pretty interesting and clear-cut. I'd like to do the same backtests on my computer, however (like I posted before) I have the problem with getting my MT4 remember certain TFs.
For that reason, I hereby kindly ask everybody who has 90% quality data 2,5 (or more) years back AND has like 30 minutes to spare for the sake of this great system and for his own education, if he/she could redo Simba's five (or how many?) simple backtests with my EA and his settings. It really should take 30 minutes maximum. If you can't spare 30 minutes on one of the most important steps in adapting to a system, you should consider why you trade at all, IMHO.
Or, if you know solution to my problem (I described it in post #504), please tell me, I'll be the first one to redo Simba's backtests

Either way, it would be good to organize our to-do's. IMHO, first step would be to have somebody (at least 1 person) to redo Simba's tests on M5 TF to confirm his conclusions about SATL being the best trend indicator among SATL, HULL MA, and JMA.
Second, I would suggest trying to use different Chandeliers (different settings and different TFs (M30, D1) as Simba has proposed). I don't know though where to start -- I think Simba is the one who is most familiar with this ever better indicator; so Simba, please make a decision
Third, I don't know exactly what testing Simba is doing right now, maybe it is something I have just mentioned, or Simba's modifications of SATL etc.

Sorry I can't be of any more help except testing on TFs other than M5 through H1 which basically means nothing except what I posted after my EA. At least I can do coding of the EA, so if anyone has some requests for his testing, tell me
http://www.forex-tsd.com/metatrader-...riod_converter
this will help.

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