Forex



Go Back   Forex Trading > Discussion Areas > General Discussion
Forex Forum Register More recent Blogs Calendar Advertising Others Help






Register
Welcome to Forex-TSD!, one of the largest Forex forums worldwide, where you will be able to find the most complete and reliable Forex information imaginable.

From the list below, select the forum that you want to visit and register to post, as many times you want. It’s absolutely free. Click here for registering on Forex-TSD.

Exclusive Forum
The Exclusive Forum is the only paid section. Once you subscribe, you will get free access to real cutting-edge Trading Systems (automated and not), Indicators, Signals, Articles, etc., that will help and guide you, in ways that you could only imagine, with your Forex trading.
  • Elite Section
    Get access to private discussions, specialized support, indicators and trading systems reported every week.
  • Advanced Elite Section
    For professional traders, trading system developers and any other member who may need to use and/or convert, the most cutting-edge exclusive indicators and trading systems for MT4 and MT5.
See more

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-18-2009, 08:36 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 5
Ice_lemon is on a distinguished road
Who is paying you ?

Who will pay for your money ?

what do you people think from it ? is a forex broker company is a casino ?

its like when you join a forex broker company for 10k and you win for 200k, who will actually pay for it, of course the forex broker will pay for it, but where they will get the money ?
is it the money from the company indeed ?

so the company is hoping that the customer lose then the company will profiting from them ? Its okay if the broker charge for commision, fees , and interest. is it enough to pay for the winning ?

But what profit do you people think if they are free from all fees and interest, (such as fxopen, marketiva) which are spread profiting.

What happens if everyone wins?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!StumbleUpon this Post!Reddit this Post!Facebook this Post!BlinkList this Post!Google Bookmarks this Post!Yahoo! My Web this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-18-2009, 09:01 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: San Francisco,CA
Posts: 92
sfmain is on a distinguished road
?????????

I THINK THATS the point not everyone is winning so we have the forex model that bets against its clients. IM guessing because it is more profitable at least in the short term than competing with other brokers who chrge a commission then again im justs guessing..................
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!StumbleUpon this Post!Reddit this Post!Facebook this Post!BlinkList this Post!Google Bookmarks this Post!Yahoo! My Web this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-18-2009, 09:36 AM
jafar00's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 265
jafar00 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice_lemon View Post
What happens if everyone wins?
Everybody winning is not a possible scenario. With every trade you enter, there is a counterparty. When you win, they lose.. When they win, you lose. It's a zero sum game.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!StumbleUpon this Post!Reddit this Post!Facebook this Post!BlinkList this Post!Google Bookmarks this Post!Yahoo! My Web this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-18-2009, 11:14 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 5
Ice_lemon is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by jafar00 View Post
Everybody winning is not a possible scenario. With every trade you enter, there is a counterparty. When you win, they lose.. When they win, you lose. It's a zero sum game.
Yes but the point is, who will pay for your winning ? from 'other losing clients money' from the broker ? so we are 'striving' to steal other people money ?
isnt it not good ?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!StumbleUpon this Post!Reddit this Post!Facebook this Post!BlinkList this Post!Google Bookmarks this Post!Yahoo! My Web this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-18-2009, 11:52 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 24
jfeder is on a distinguished road
it really is a zero sum game and thats all. When you buy something the person you bought it from gets the money and when you sell something you get the money from that person. Thats it. (A person here doesnt mean a human being, it can be a company,broker etc.)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!StumbleUpon this Post!Reddit this Post!Facebook this Post!BlinkList this Post!Google Bookmarks this Post!Yahoo! My Web this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-19-2009, 08:19 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1
freethinker is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice_lemon View Post
Yes but the point is, who will pay for your winning ? from 'other losing clients money' from the broker ? so we are 'striving' to steal other people money ?
isnt it not good ?
It's not really a zero sum game. The amount of money in circulation keeps increasing. Most traders will still lose but that is not the fault of the system.

The biggest losers are taxpayers. Banks are not allowed to go bankrupt anymore. If banks lose some billions in badly managed forex transactions they get a stimulus package and the directors get bonuses. The stunned taxpayer gets the bill.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!StumbleUpon this Post!Reddit this Post!Facebook this Post!BlinkList this Post!Google Bookmarks this Post!Yahoo! My Web this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-19-2009, 10:52 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 158
InTrance is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by freethinker View Post
It's not really a zero sum game. The amount of money in circulation keeps increasing. Most traders will still lose but that is not the fault of the system.

The biggest losers are taxpayers. Banks are not allowed to go bankrupt anymore. If banks lose some billions in badly managed forex transactions they get a stimulus package and the directors get bonuses. The stunned taxpayer gets the bill.
I totally agree. Its usually the weak that pay the bill.

Oh the wonders of progress
__________________
Need a Professional Programmer? PM me
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!StumbleUpon this Post!Reddit this Post!Facebook this Post!BlinkList this Post!Google Bookmarks this Post!Yahoo! My Web this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03-19-2009, 01:44 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 76
daniellefr is on a distinguished road
"No pain, no gain"... that's all I have to say.
__________________
ForexExplore.com -Forex brokers reviews and rating.
Forex Blog-All forex secrets in one place.
ForexVote.com-Forex guide to brokers, bonuses, promotions and competitions.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!StumbleUpon this Post!Reddit this Post!Facebook this Post!BlinkList this Post!Google Bookmarks this Post!Yahoo! My Web this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2009, 01:43 PM
jafar00's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 265
jafar00 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice_lemon View Post
Yes but the point is, who will pay for your winning ? from 'other losing clients money' from the broker ? so we are 'striving' to steal other people money ?
isnt it not good ?
If a broker is paying winners from the money of losers, it is called a bucketshop or ponzi scheme. Any legitimate broker would have your money on the open market and they would collect your winnings from said market on your behalf. This is one of the reasons you pay them spread/commission is it not?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!StumbleUpon this Post!Reddit this Post!Facebook this Post!BlinkList this Post!Google Bookmarks this Post!Yahoo! My Web this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 03-22-2009, 02:18 PM
nmx nmx is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 21
nmx is on a distinguished road
Talking

When a central bank sells a bond in the shape of his currency" issues a currency " , this central bank makes a commitment to buy this very bond " currency " at market price at any time , in the perfect Trading environment it eventually goes down to that .
David letterman often repeats this joke ever since the economic crisis began "where did all the money went .... could it be in wallmart "the truth is that The total global liquidity is constantly changing and all our losses and gains are in that pool unless your broker is a bucket shop .
In fact , the currency market is a lot mare stable since the trading volume of forex dramatically increased , so we, forex traders are actually , somehow providing a service by making it easy for governments to stabilize there currency's values ,people would be surprised to know that forex is a productive business that contributes in the global economy and pays it's serious workers back just like any other field of work .

Last edited by nmx; 03-22-2009 at 03:41 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!StumbleUpon this Post!Reddit this Post!Facebook this Post!BlinkList this Post!Google Bookmarks this Post!Yahoo! My Web this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:48 AM.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.