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Old 09-23-2007, 08:38 AM
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No, very differently.
I tried to describe the rules in the beginning of this thread.

Ichimoku is complex (and complicated) indicator: we may predict future market condition, s/r levels, we may have several signals for sell/buy depends on the risk and so on. That is why I did not look at those new Ichimoku indicators posted: standard Ichimoku indicator is complicated and complex to use but those new ones should be more complicated ...
I will try to look at this as I said I want to construct some semi- or automatic manual trading system on M5 or M15 ...

It is nothing with moving averages technique. May be it is similar with difital filters' technique + this one Forex Trading With Simple Setup (concerning borders of the cloud) + choppy/flat market condition estimation + forecasting and so on. Just one Ichimoku indicator only with default setting.
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:42 AM
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Besides, I've never used MTF cases with Ichimoku as I think one timeframe is enough for this indicator. If we need to the other timeframe so we may open the other chart with other timeframe with the other indicator. Because Ichimoku indicator is re-painting the future cloud lines (for next week or month), and in this MTF case I don't know which lines will be re-painting and which ones not so I will be fully confused because of that. And because of that I am not using MTF with Ichimoku.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:17 AM
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Cronex_TaichiMPsw_mtf.mq4 Separate window, Price, MTF
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ps. new article in mql site
Indicator Taichi - a Simple Idea of Formalizing the Values of Ichimoku Kinko Hyo.
Indicator Taichi - a Simple Idea of Formalizing the Values of Ichimoku Kinko Hyo. - MQL4 Articles
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:21 AM
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Quite good

Thx, dude. It is very useful knowledge to use. I really learn a lot
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:29 PM
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hello there...

can i get indicator for KUMO (like a cloud) only???
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:43 PM
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Look at this page to this one and so on.

But I am not sure.
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nope...all that indi are not original kumo..
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Alternative Ichimoku - MQL4 Code Base
update 20071210 -Alternative_Ichimoku_v07XM_mtf.mq4

Pair Time SSP SSK
EURGBP 4H 44 38
CADCHF 4H 62 52
CADJPY 4H 48 36
GBPUSD 4H 44 36
GBPCHF 4H 34 29
GBPJPY 4H 36 29
EURUSD 4H 34 34
EURCHF 4H 72 50
EURJPY 4H 72 36
USDCAD 4H 24 60
USDCHF 4H 34 29
USDJPY 4H 34 29
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in the link above (Alternative Ichimoku - MQL4 Code Base), Lucas:
The indicator Alternative Ichimoku was developed as an alternative to the famous indicator Ichimoku Kinko Hyo. To forecast prices, it is better to use on one timeframe both indicators - Ichimoku Kinko Hyo and Alternative Ichimoku, and you will get quite a precise forecast. The indicator was developed as a tool for working not with stocks, but with main currency pairs. Here are chart profiles for currency pairs, used by the author:

Pair Time SSP SSK
EURGBP 4H 44 38
CADCHF 4H 62 52
CADJPY 4H 48 36
GBPUSD 4H 44 36
GBPCHF 4H 34 29
GBPJPY 4H 36 29
EURUSD 4H 34 34
EURCHF 4H 72 50
EURJPY 4H 72 36
USDCAD 4H 24 60
USDCHF 4H 34 29
USDJPY 4H 34 29
The main difference from Ichimoku Kinko Hyo consists in shorter periods of the indicator calculation. This allows considering currencies' entering the cloud as an anticipatory signal, and not a categorical assertion of a pivot or trend end.

Common Indicators' Values:
The location of prices above or below the cloud indicates the existence of a trend. Entrance to the cloud is an anticipatory signal. Prices' passing inside the cloud is a flat.
Difference of the Indicators:
The alternative one does not have Kijun and Tenkan, but inside the cloud there is a stop-order line that shows the level to set necessary current stops. Crossing this line is considered a change in trading direction. For the calculation of stop-loss and take-profit levels, in the upper left corner we see the value of the current volatility - the size of the corridor, in which the current price changes. The volatility is calculated as a difference of a maximum for a doubled calculated period and a minimum for a doubled calculated period.
The 26th of March 2007
Added a new version of the indicator Alternative_Ichimoku_v06. The sixth version includes the amended displaying of the indicator line. Now the line does not hide candlesticks or bars, if the option "chart on top" is not enabled. New are parameters of currency rate changing for a "report period". This simplifies the process of an approximate estimation of stop orders when making a decision to open an order.
The 9th of April, 2007.
Added a new version of the indicator Alternative_Ichimoku_v07. The seventh version includes the possibility of an optional construction of a middle line in Ichimoku cloud. If you want to see it, change false into true. The crossing of the middle line and the stop-order line resembled to me the crossing of Kinjun and Tenkan. But four lines of different functionality in one indicator is too much. That is why the middle line is optional.
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