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Old 02-23-2009, 11:35 PM
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There'll be a few burnt fingers after yesterdays trade, thats for sure Bill.

So glad I closed 3/4 of my usdjpy long for +200. I actually chanced a short on it then got nervous and cut it to see it fall a few 100 minutes later. But overall it was a good result.

I lost all my UJ pips. Just not quick enough I learned a hard lesson.

To all those struggling in the room ... It happens to me too. I have a crisis of confidence at least once a week and then I trade really stupidly afterwards. I'm also finding the 15min chart trading really stressful and I'm trying hard to move up timeframes.

It is really helping me to do my own chart analysis, mark my own trendlines and levels and try and apply strategy to higher time frames. Then before the live room starts I decide that if that works that is what I want to trade regardless of what they call or recommend. That way I don't jump into anything called out in the live room that looks fabulous on a 15min chart and get burnt because I am not sure of the targets or the bigger picture. If the setups I like don't happen then I'm going to try not to trade.

Unless the potential reward is double my risk I'm just not interested in the stress . Lately I have found at the end of the day, whether it has been good or bad, I feel like I have just been through the spin cycle in the washing mashine and I'm exhausted.

My goal eventually much less trades a week but all really good setups and ideally ones that look good on the daily or 4hr chart too. I know I have been overtrading ...

Hang in and find what works for you too ...
Nicola

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Old 02-24-2009, 02:09 AM
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First time using these, I put a 25 pip trail on them I set the EJ, EU, GU shortly after these were posted. All 3 stopped out. What are the chances of all 3? 4% of acct for each trade.
Story of my life.
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AUDUSD
Sell order at .6380 with TP at 0.6300

CHFJPY
Sell order at 80.50 with TP at 77.00

EURGBP
Sell order at .8730 with TP at .8550

EURJPY
Sell order at 119.60 with TP at 117.00

EURUSD
Sell order at 1.2686 with TP at 1.2590

GBPCHF
Sell order at 1.6610 with TP at 1.6500

GBPJPY
Sell order at 134.50 with TP at 130.50

GBPUSD
Sell order at 1.4450 with TP at 1.4150

USDCAD
Buy order at 1.2565 with TP at 1.2670

USDCHF
Buy order at 1.1700 with TP at 1.2130

USDJPY
Buy order at 95.00 with TP at 96.30

TP on 50% of position, go to BE and trail

Rock n Roll,
Strat

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25 pip stop loss on volatile Daily pairs - WOW!

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First time using these, I put a 25 pip trail on them I set the EJ, EU, GU shortly after these were posted. All 3 stopped out. What are the chances of all 3? 4% of acct for each trade.
Story of my life.
25 pip stop loss on a daily time frame? This shows how very inexperienced you are!

The average daily range over the last 2 trading days are:

EURJPY 174 pips

EURUSD 246 pips

GBPUSD 259 pips

25 pips on these will stop you out on a hiccup!

Also, this was not a recommendation to trade.

4% on EACH? That's a total of 12%! Good MM is that your TOTAL trades do not exceed 2% to 3% of your account. Absolute madness!! On that basis, you only have 8 more losing trades to go before you blow your account!

May I suggest you learn the basics of trading before going any further


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Good points and I'll learn from that. BTW it was a 25 pip trail, not intial stop loss that was much bigger and thanks again for the advice.
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AUDUSD
Sell order at .6380 with TP at 0.6300

CHFJPY
Sell order at 80.50 with TP at 77.00

EURGBP
Sell order at .8730 with TP at .8550

EURJPY
Sell order at 119.60 with TP at 117.00

EURUSD
Sell order at 1.2686 with TP at 1.2590

GBPCHF
Sell order at 1.6610 with TP at 1.6500

GBPJPY
Sell order at 134.50 with TP at 130.50

GBPUSD
Sell order at 1.4450 with TP at 1.4150

USDCAD
Buy order at 1.2565 with TP at 1.2670

USDCHF
Buy order at 1.1700 with TP at 1.2130

USDJPY
Buy order at 95.00 with TP at 96.30

TP on 50% of position, go to BE and trail

Rock n Roll,
Strat
Thanks for posting Strat. Very interesting. I'll keep an eye on these. At the moment only the USD:JPN trade has triggered right?

Can I ask how large a stop do you use? Do you use the daily ATR to help decide, or use previous s/r levels?

Most of your entries appear to be breaks of the previous days highs or lows, but direction confuses me. I assume you are using fib levels for reversals of trends?

Thanks again.

Edit: Cable trade in now. Broken yesterday low.

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update from previous post

Hi Guys,

Been Reading again and it's a little comforting to here that other (more experienced) traders have similar battles of the mind to overcome as well.

I posted a simple trading journal on Post #1800. Now heer is the version for excel 97-2003.

Cheers,
See ya's in the live room.

martin
PS: Recently I discovered an error in on of the formulas.

The new Calculation in Cell # H14 on the MONTHLY TOTALS Sheet sould be :

=LOOKUP(9.99999999999999E+307,H2:H13)

Just Copy and paste this into the cell and all is good.

If anyone has found other errors, then just email me @:

partymarty007@yahoo.com

and I will fix it and re-post the updated Workbook.
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Old 02-24-2009, 10:07 AM
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On money management, i generally aim to risk 1% per trade. Recently i've moved to .3% as I am suffering a crisis of confidence. Once i'm back on track i'll move back.

For me, anymore than 1% is just too risky.

On average 2 trades per day, so 10% of account at risk per week.

Anymore than that and I get a twitchy sphincter!!!
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Thanks for posting Strat. Very interesting. I'll keep an eye on these. At the moment only the USD:JPN trade has triggered right?

Can I ask how large a stop do you use? Do you use the daily ATR to help decide, or use previous s/r levels?

Most of your entries appear to be breaks of the previous days highs or lows, but direction confuses me. I assume you are using fib levels for reversals of trends?

Thanks again.

Edit: Cable trade in now. Broken yesterday low.
Correct, Stuart, only GBPUSD and USDJPY triggered, the rest are cancelled now. Most markets are moving very irrationally and being tugged in the direction of who and whichever country makes the best speech.

My stops go either at swing highs or lows or major S&R and are never by pip value.

Most of my entries are breaks of highs or lows - I only want to be in a trade when the market is moving in my direction (momentum).

I use a combination of everything I know to forecast direction and only get it right about a third of the time (even less in these turbulent times).

BOJ is buying boat loads of Treasury Bonds again forcing the $ up (and the Yen down) and in sympathy, the other Yen pairs. They and China will continue to do this until they weaken their currencies to the point that their exports are attractive again.

This makes the forecasting part of technical analyis difficult and strengthens the argument for funny mentals.

At least they can't mess with Rock n Roll!

Cheers,
Strat
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Correct, Stuart, only GBPUSD and USDJPY triggered, the rest are cancelled now. Most markets are moving very irrationally and being tugged in the direction of who and whichever country makes the best speech.

My stops go either at swing highs or lows or major S&R and are never by pip value.

Most of my entries are breaks of highs or lows - I only want to be in a trade when the market is moving in my direction (momentum).

I use a combination of everything I know to forecast direction and only get it right about a third of the time (even less in these turbulent times).

BOJ is buying boat loads of Treasury Bonds again forcing the $ up (and the Yen down) and in sympathy, the other Yen pairs. They and China will continue to do this until they weaken their currencies to the point that their exports are attractive again.

This makes the forecasting part of technical analyis difficult and strengthens the argument for funny mentals.

At least they can't mess with Rock n Roll!

Cheers,
Strat
Thanks Strat.

Even the pimp strat has been strange over the past few days. On a 1 hour basis, nothing has held. MA's have been stacked in one direction and the price flying the other etc!

I took 1 trade this morning, a EUR:CHF short. Came out of it for a very very small profit when it turned mid morning.

Watching the cable trade now. Will delete the rest.

Think you are right. FX seems to be super tough at the moment.

Good evening.
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I've annoyingly been stopped out on the cable trade. Stop above yesterdays high, hit- passed by about 20 pips and now reversing.

Trading is frustrating as hell sometimes!

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