Well, if the provider can tell you their MM, it should have not problem with %. Actually, I like % with sound MM. PIPs without trading size just make no sense for account equity at all.

Everyone join hands, we are taking the caravan of % revolution!

What you and each of us in looking for can be found at Collective2.com ,Its a great site for tracking all types of systems and breaks down each trade. The problem is that the "Fly by night" trade call services will never submit thier system to this web site due to the fact that it will expose them for what they really are "P.O.S" This site is a independent auditor. Its a great site one of the best and it hides nothing from the public, so "Fly by nights" do your self a favor and stay away.

Iceman

Yeah true, hence the ideal scenario would be % and pips.

But again, % risk is up to the trader. Pips is determined by the rules of the system.

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no the ideal is net % and DD in % or Risk/return ratio

the worst is pips.
Do you understand that you can be positive in pips and negative in balance?
That won't happen with %.

I want to add one more point for service providers. They should either join 3rd party verification service or post account statements for us to verify their results.

It's very easy to set up a demo account to trade your own signals and show us your results from your statement instead of just telling us so many pips without any verification.

I see more and more providers are doing it now.

But some providers will understandably not post account statements because they don't want to give away information that can expose their edge or trading pairs. Anyways, a private 3rd party audit, is probably the way to go.

Yes, showing drawdown in imperative.

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it all written above in post #29 above. At a site called Collective2.com

Yes but the issue is people that just come in forums and open a thread with a title like "xxxxx pips this week / month "
It is just fooling a lot of newbies that are impressed by the large number of pips.
I would suggest that when we see in the threads we follow such kind of sentences presented as results of a system (specially the commercial ones because in that case this kind of results may be published with the intentions of really fooling people) we just ask for results in net % and including the DD in %.
The reaction of the guy publishing the results to this request will be a good indicator on the validity of the system. If he gets angry or refuse to do it claiming that it makes no sense or finding excuses, then it just means that people can forget about that system.