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Old 11-25-2006, 04:54 PM
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I am sorry the word is on yesterday's 1H U/J chart.Today I reopen a new chart and put the EA on it. No text showed.The GBP/USD chart also has no text for "trend".See below is the picture.Platform is Alpari.
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Old 11-25-2006, 05:14 PM
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I am sorry the word is on yesterday's 1H U/J chart.Today I reopen a new chart and put the EA on it. No text showed.The GBP/USD chart also has no text for "trend".See below is the picture.Platform is Alpari.
That's ok...you won't be able to see the message again until trading resumes on Sunday and some tick data starts coming through.
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Old 11-25-2006, 05:25 PM
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Then I must wait for another day.I am printing the source code and begin to read,hope can find out something.
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Old 11-25-2006, 05:38 PM
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Could anyone bother to help me understand/clarify some basic concepts of Goblin/10point3.

1. Since there is a setting of Takeprofit, when the Secureprofit will be used?
2.What 's the difference it makes for the AccountProtection to be enabled or disabled?
3.If I trade mini/micro lot, I must choose 1 for Account is normal?
4. What's the use of magic number?

Thanks a lot in advance for any help.
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:42 PM
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Hello Mr Bluto

Thanks A lot for this good EA


I have a very good results

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Old 11-26-2006, 03:06 PM
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for Bluto

Premised ....... I do not speak English and to use a translator automatic rifle.
I hope that the translation is clear.
I have followed and appreciated a lot all your EA. Gablin, 10 Point,Predator and Terminator.
Many bonds are all and go very well. When the market moves in lateral way, or with jolts not too much violent the EA earn money constantly.
Also in the event that the trend it inverts the own direction after that the EA has opened a position, using the method that opens new positions doubling the costs, the EA succeeds to recover.
The only problem is that one of the losses that are come true when the market has of the great deep oscillations much and, in that case, the method of the recovery with the doubling of the costs, in case of trend contrary, do not work.
Also because it presupposes an investment of capital them a lot important and, in the event of a trend contrary that it continues for 100/200 or 300 pips, the losses are impossible to support.
I would want to advance one proposed and to ask if it is possible to realize it.
In this moment I speak about Gablin. (But it can be worth also for Predator and Terminator).
In order to open the own positions this EA uses two pointers - oscillating.
When it receives the correct indications open the position. (buy or sell).
My question is this: In the event of an oscillation much deep one, when it is arrives you to the third or fourth doubling (or moore…), if the oscillating ones clearly indicate a reversal of the trend, it would be possible to modify the code of the EA in such way that CLOSES IN LOSS that position and IT OPENS some ENDURED an other that goes in the sense of the trend? (of equal value? perhaps….)
In my opinion, it is better to close a position with controlled loss, which can always be recovered by future gains, instead of continuing to open new opposite/contrary positions to the trend, which could, almost for certain, bring big losses
In order to limit the losses and' possible also to make the position doublings using the numbers of Fibonacci.
As an example: rather than to double 1-2-4-8-16-32-64-128 -256-512- ( Max10 trades or moore..)
To use instead Fibonacci numbers 1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34-55 (Max 10 trades or moore..)
These options would have to be inserted in the code with the possibility to be used only from who want it.
Who instead prefers to make as always she will not use to them.
If these modifications will be inserted in the code they will be able also to make of the searches (back test) in order to understand, from the statistical point of view, which level of doubling can be closed the position.
Thanks
Aspect comments.
Salutes to all.
Romano
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Old 11-26-2006, 04:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yeoeleven
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Originally Posted by tururo
The way this EA works is to open a new trade when the loss gets to the value of the "Pips" setting (15). It does this until you have maxtrades open and will open no more. Once you get to maxtrades, if the price continues to go against you, your losses are unlimited. The modification sets the stop point at the place where the last trade would reach the 15 pip loss point + the value of initial stop.
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If you had set an initial stop, the system could've bailed you out at a minor loss earlier on but you have this set to zero.
Bluto & John,

Thanks a lot for the excellent work and help from both you. Here 's a question for you two.

I am bit confused with initial stop right now. John gave very clear explanation of initial stop, but from the back testing, goblin doesn't seem to work the way as described for 10point3 dynamic stop.

According to John's explanation, if you set the value of initial stop at zero, that 's most conservative. But from bluto' explanation, if you want to be conservative, initial stop should not be set at zero.

Could you help me understand this better?

Thanks
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Old 11-26-2006, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by teamfri
Bluto & John,

Thanks a lot for the excellent work and help from both you. Here 's a question for you two.

I am bit confused with initial stop right now. John gave very clear explanation of initial stop, but from the back testing, goblin doesn't seem to work the way as described for 10point3 dynamic stop.

According to John's explanation, if you set the value of initial stop at zero, that 's most conservative. But from bluto' explanation, if you want to be conservative, initial stop should not be set at zero.

Could you help me understand this better?

Thanks
I have only copied a description of how the Initialstop works from tururo's explanation after he created the modification into 10points 3 Dynamic Stop and having no coding experience am not able to elaborate further.

It is possible that changes were made to the Initialstop when Goblin was created. It is also possible that there are further ramifications to the Initialstop and that the 0 setting.

According to tururo's description the value of the Initial stop was added to the Maxtrades after the final progression so if the Initialstop was 3 and the MaxTrades5 there would be an increase of 3 pips to the loss if the Maxtrades stop was activated.

John

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Old 11-26-2006, 07:13 PM
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Premised ....... I do not speak English and to use a translator automatic rifle.
I hope that the translation is clear.
I have followed and appreciated a lot all your EA. Gablin, 10 Point,Predator and Terminator.
Many bonds are all and go very well. When the market moves in lateral way, or with jolts not too much violent the EA earn money constantly.
Also in the event that the trend it inverts the own direction after that the EA has opened a position, using the method that opens new positions doubling the costs, the EA succeeds to recover.
The only problem is that one of the losses that are come true when the market has of the great deep oscillations much and, in that case, the method of the recovery with the doubling of the costs, in case of trend contrary, do not work.
Also because it presupposes an investment of capital them a lot important and, in the event of a trend contrary that it continues for 100/200 or 300 pips, the losses are impossible to support.
I would want to advance one proposed and to ask if it is possible to realize it.
In this moment I speak about Gablin. (But it can be worth also for Predator and Terminator).
In order to open the own positions this EA uses two pointers - oscillating.
When it receives the correct indications open the position. (buy or sell).
My question is this: In the event of an oscillation much deep one, when it is arrives you to the third or fourth doubling (or moore…), if the oscillating ones clearly indicate a reversal of the trend, it would be possible to modify the code of the EA in such way that CLOSES IN LOSS that position and IT OPENS some ENDURED an other that goes in the sense of the trend? (of equal value? perhaps….)
In my opinion, it is better to close a position with controlled loss, which can always be recovered by future gains, instead of continuing to open new opposite/contrary positions to the trend, which could, almost for certain, bring big losses
In order to limit the losses and' possible also to make the position doublings using the numbers of Fibonacci.
As an example: rather than to double 1-2-4-8-16-32-64-128 -256-512- ( Max10 trades or moore..)
To use instead Fibonacci numbers 1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34-55 (Max 10 trades or moore..)
These options would have to be inserted in the code with the possibility to be used only from who want it.
Who instead prefers to make as always she will not use to them.
If these modifications will be inserted in the code they will be able also to make of the searches (back test) in order to understand, from the statistical point of view, which level of doubling can be closed the position.
Thanks
Aspect comments.
Salutes to all.
Romano
lutti@email.it
I understand the issues you raise and they're perfectly valid. What you've described is the biggest defect in the original 10Point3 model, but I'm hoping that the enhancements in Goblin will allow the EA to trade with the trend much better and help keep us out of trouble with countertrend buys & sells placed just as a reversal is coming.

The suggestions you make are good but would require practically a complete re-write of the 10Point3 engine. That's not something I'm really interested in doing at this point although I have some ideas on the drawing board if this Goblin approach works the way I think it will. What I would request at this time is that we concentrate on testing Goblin as it is with demo accounts for awhile and accumulate some experience and observations. If these trend following enhancements work, then we can look at ways to improve the risk and trade management parts of the EA. I look at this as an ongoing and evolutionary thing with everybody participating.
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Old 11-26-2006, 07:17 PM
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Bluto & John,

Thanks a lot for the excellent work and help from both you. Here 's a question for you two.

I am bit confused with initial stop right now. John gave very clear explanation of initial stop, but from the back testing, goblin doesn't seem to work the way as described for 10point3 dynamic stop.

According to John's explanation, if you set the value of initial stop at zero, that 's most conservative. But from bluto' explanation, if you want to be conservative, initial stop should not be set at zero.

Could you help me understand this better?

Thanks
Let me study the code on 10Point3 a little deeper before I respond. I'm pretty sure most of this has already been discussed in the original 10Point3 thread. The only thing I've changed in 10Point3 to create the Goblin EA is the trade triggering....the rest of the EA is standard and has been discussed in great detail in the original 10Point3 thread.
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