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Old 07-03-2009, 09:52 PM
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There are a lot of ideas depend on BPNN Predictor Indicator.
For example It may use to Predict next movement of RSI Indicator.

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Old 07-07-2009, 05:38 PM
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I believe there is some instability in this BNNP predictor.
I ran 3 backtests on a daily euro chart. I took a very small period.
between 1june 2009 till today.
The test I run is the crossing of the BNNP with the smoothed BNNP.
I leave everything in default setting. But with only 1 fut. bar prediction.
When on the OPENING of a new bar the BNNP is above the BNNP smoothed on the next bar then so called go long on the bar that just opened.
When the opening of a new bar, the BNNP is bellow the BNNP smoothed on the next bar then go short on the bar that just opened.

I did this test 3 x times over this very short period whitout changing anything what so ever to the settings and I got 3 x times a total different result.

I had this problem already a week ago with a friend when we backtested some periods but did not pay any real attention to it ( because one does not think that if you do a test with a certain indicator that it would give opposite results).
Today I did again a test and because 1 particular bar that was a heavy loss made the overall result not looking that good.
By acccident I ran the test again and suddenly I saw that this losing bar turned into a winning bar.
So we ran the test again and started to look to the result over each single bar. We saw that the 3 test gave on each test a completaly different result. Even in this way that over 26 bars it gave 14 times a different result.

So I would suggest to be very carefull with whatever kind of backtest you do and specially with the results it would produce.
If somebody had a similar experience I would gladely hear about it.

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Old 07-08-2009, 02:33 PM
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You need to fiddle with the bp-nn training settings to obtain *more* stable results.
You'll never get identical forecasts with a bpnn because of the way the network weights are randomised during the network's training phase.
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This is a good topic about neural network.

Recipes for Neuronets - MQL4 Articles
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:04 PM
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This is a good topic about neural network.

Recipes for Neuronets - MQL4 Articles
Wow, thank you, very interesting stuff. But, like many codes relatedes to NN I put it in my charts and didn`t see what the author shows...

It seems that is needed to change something in code related with directories where are saved some informations, but is not clear for me

I apreciated any imputs...

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Wow, thank you, very interesting stuff. But, like many codes relatedes to NN I put it in my charts and didn`t see what the author shows...

It seems that is needed to change something in code related with directories where are saved some informations, but is not clear for me

I apreciated any imputs...

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I think Stochastic Net is more easy, I've studied it for more than 3 weeks
but I am still trying to find what's the best way to train it.
we depend on djama indicator or depend on other idea.
also I am trying to find what's the best filters we can use.
then we can let it work with any expert advisor which use a good strategy
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Old 08-08-2009, 10:30 PM
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I think Stochastic Net is more easy, I've studied it for more than 3 weeks
but I am still trying to find what's the best way to train it.
we depend on djama indicator or depend on other idea.
also I am trying to find what's the best filters we can use.
then we can let it work with any expert advisor which use a good strategy
Nice one

I have see that here is the indicator that you talk about:

’е€оя‚нос‚ная се‚Œ - MQL4 Code Base

Also, there is an EA to use Stochastic DLL.

But... I really found very interesting that article called Recipes for Neuronets. It seems that is needed to use Visual Studio to compile that DLL called Better... I really didn`t uderstant nothing about this softwares but it seems that I will need to learn. If I discovered how to solve that things I will post here.

Bob

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maybe a better direction of discussion would be ---

give some example, of NN that could PREDICT -- with the assumption of certain currency pair, certian time zone

at least it could detect of trend, reversal , magnitude of the trend -- with 90% accuracy

-- we have not YET seen very cool chart dig with cool prediction in this thread
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To xx3xxx,

xx3xxx,

Do you have to spam everywhere and do you ever read your comments before you post them?

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Nice one

I have see that here is the indicator that you talk about:

Вероятностная сеть - MQL4 Code Base

Also, there is an EA to use Stochastic DLL.

But... I really found very interesting that article called Recipes for Neuronets. It seems that is needed to use Visual Studio to compile that DLL called Better... I really didn`t uderstant nothing about this softwares but it seems that I will need to learn. If I discovered how to solve that things I will post here.

Bob
I am learning how to compile files by Visual Studio too and I am studying Stochastic NN
I am using this Indicator to Know It's behavior with the good trend and bad trend

for example : I am using this code when I plan to go short
Code:
int BuildT(int i)                                                          // زٍَ َهى ًي ٍهٍ  هًهَهييٌٍ 
{                                                                          //  هًهًنييٌٍ
  int T= 0;

  double Previous = djama(n,p,q,i+1);    
  double Current = djama(n,p,q,i);
  double Next = djama(n,p,q,i-1);
 
  if (Current <= Next) T = -1; 
  if (Current > Next) T =  1;  
  return (T);
and this code when I am planing to go long

Code:
int BuildT(int i)                                                          // زٍَ َهى ًي ٍهٍ  هًهَهييٌٍ 
{                                                                          //  هًهًنييٌٍ
  int T= 0;

  double Previous = djama(n,p,q,i+1);    
  double Current = djama(n,p,q,i);
  double Next = djama(n,p,q,i-1);
 
  if (Current < Next) T = -1; 
  if (Current >= Next) T =  1;  
  return (T);
}
Then I see the result
I control by (lastBar) from parameter
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