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Old 09-12-2009, 03:21 AM
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This is what i currently have:

below -80 is a sell signal and above 80 is a buy signal

the Aqua line is a Net w/ the following inputs:
3MA's(8,13,21) PSAR & Bollinger Bands

The Lime line is a Net w/ :
CCI Stochastic, RSI, %R, DeMarker

The Red one is :
MACD, Momentum, Gator

All values are normalized using the same method

The lines are the outputs from the network after training

I'm at a total loss on what to do now

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Old 09-12-2009, 04:31 AM
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Well, I hate giving you ready solutions considering I failed to come up with something interesting and useful. I hope you could try something different. I mentioned before the learning curve is very freaking steep, you have to read a lot, all info is available on the net including this site. There are threads devoted to this issue.

Briefly, since you built your normalized inputs now you have to build your NN and teach your NN by those inputs. NN consists of group Neurons which produce some kind of Output. Keep in mind Output also has to be normalized and preferably should lay between 0 and 1. So, having some function PNN which called on each new bar -> this function applies your Inputs on N bars back, builds neurons and gives you normalized Output. So, again your Output would be different on each bar in correlation of your Inputs processed N bars back in history. Now, you could have two external parameters in your expert Threshold_Buy and Threshold_Sell and if Output>Threshold_Sell you sell, if Output<Threshold_Buy you buy. In MT4 optimizer you could optimize those 2 parameters to have the best values (on determined period of time), then you could test your expert on period which is out of optimization period. If everything still look okay at that point then you are on the right track.

Keep in mind that's what I was doing.....

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This is what i currently have:

below -80 is a sell signal and above 80 is a buy signal

the Aqua line is a Net w/ the following inputs:
3MA's(8,13,21) PSAR & Bollinger Bands

The Lime line is a Net w/ :
CCI Stochastic, RSI, %R, DeMarker

The Red one is :
MACD, Momentum, Gator

All values are normalized using the same method

The lines are the outputs from the network after training

I'm at a total loss on what to do now

Here's the Pic:
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Old 09-12-2009, 12:16 PM
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kool ... i understand ... i've been trying to get a working solution for the last 3 months now with no concrete success.

I had another idea ... i was thinking the earlier today that my problem might be this: when training i skip bars ... IE i train the indicator based on the highs and lows of a trend ... this might be messing up the results when i test it because i test on every bar ... i was thinking ... its not trained to do every bar ... which would put my zigzag theory out the door ...b/c it lags ... just a thought ... does this sound like it could be a problem?

Again ... thanks in advance
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Old 09-14-2009, 05:39 PM
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Here's another thought ... if we're training the indicator on a zig-zag which only goes up and down ... how do u get a "Do nothing" in there ... zig-zag is either up or down
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Old 10-02-2009, 05:11 AM
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range bars might help NN analysis

I think I understand what you are saying about the missing info in the bars - - if there is a range bar type available, then the price and volatilty might be more accurately reflected for NN analysis.
Range bars would fix the range per bar and more accurately reflect activity of each currency pair since fast and radical price range moves in a shorter amount of time - - like an implied time and sales of sorts...
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