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Old 05-12-2008, 09:13 AM
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And don't force me to name the real cases by real words.
As everybody knows that Igor is not a scammer and Igor is professional in forex.
We are talking about different things now.
So, please follow this formalities selecting from 1, 2 or 3 in action.
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:57 AM
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Hi New digital,

You do not need to repeat yourself after you see already that we do act according your demands.

You wrote to me that if I can not trade from a metatrader platform I should ask a friend to trade. You even sujested that I should ask Alex.
You say it HAS to be on a metatrader platform. ( again that is saying to me you can defend yourself with a lawayer but I am going to tell you wich lawyer you can take ).
But no problem WE accept all you demands.

I follow your advice 100% and act accordingly. Alex said he will post his statements the days that he is trading. Wich this morning he already did.
Make your conclusions based on the metrader statements that he will post. In the mean time I am also going to trade from an oanda platform and post them also and I will continue also to post my printscreens from my trading platform.

So this way I will give proof my way and you will receive proof the way you demanded me. This way everybode will be happy.

And please try to stay also calm. I have the feeling that if someone writes a 3pages long false accusation about me that is even not worth reacting on, that you don't mind. If a member of the group trys to deffend me a bit that you react very nervous.

As said WE are going to supply what is demanded.
I'm not afraid because I know I'm a good trader. If I don't make money then my clients of my FUND also don't make money.
I just don't like it that people who are even not a member tell me what I should do. And aspecially that I know that all the trouble always comes from that very same person who is actually doubting my trading skills.
So this is all a lot of energy wasted.

As I asked in my previous posting: If we give proof will the people who doubt my inegrety, become a member ??...no asnwer came to this question.
Do you think after we post the results and show beeing profitable over a loner period of time that this guy who wrote 3 pages with false accusations that he will come back and write 3 pages full of appoligys ??...

It is the very same I go to a garage of porsche. I ask the garage owner: Could I have a test drive please with a porsche cayman. BUT I also say to him: after I have the test drive and I feel it is a good car I will not buy the car. It is only to be shure if other people would buy the car that THEY buy a good car.
How many garage owners of porsche do you think that would still give me that test drive ??...NON.

And that is where I feel angree and more then pissed off.

But forget all the anger and frustration. As said we are going to supply what is demanded.

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Old 05-12-2008, 12:08 PM
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...Alex said he will post his statements the days that he is trading. Wich this morning he already did....
Yes, thanks a lot.

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As I asked in my previous posting: If we give proof will the people who doubt my inegrety, become a member ??...no asnwer came to this question.
Do you think after we post the results and show beeing profitable over a loner period of time that this guy who wrote 3 pages with false accusations that he will come back and write 3 pages full of appoligys ??...
I do not think that your "enemies" will apologize by 3 pages ... there were not 3 pages really ... Look at those images: it is the posts deleted by me from your thread (it is about 300 posts):

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Simple, if Alex will continue with the statement so
- the discussion will slowly be turned onto technical way (from private things) about results and so on;
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- moderators will have the right to protect your commercial thread from any spams/flood etc in very active way. Because as you see from the images, the deleting of the posts are not the decision.

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That is why I asked for the statements.
Because it is the only way to stop attacking.
Yes, I agree: it is very formal way about statement. But any statement can be discussed in technical forex way. If someone will be interested to discuss of course. If not, so, does not matter - we will know that everything will be done in right way.
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:36 PM
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Second, if I can choose for a demo account I will not trade with a metrader platform. The reason why is that not 1 professional person with serious intentions will ever trade on a metrader platform. If some of the people here ask to do it on a metrader platform it only proofs that they trade with very small money and have no serious intentions in trading and do not understand any other statement.

I beg to disagree , quite frankly make no mistake iGoR , there are sure
very experienced traders out there , with impresive backrounds in trading unlike you with your managed million dollar fund that nobody can find one little fart about .
Now , go ahead and tell to Steve , that he's Forex wannabe
Below are pictures, which in one of them Steve is actually talking about him trading also through MT4 Platform , I see myself nothing wrong with it ,
just because he use MT4 desn't mean he don't have any other platforms and brokers , I also myself have more platforms and brokers , MT4 is great addition .
Did you said " basket diversyfying " ?
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:02 PM
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I don't know if i shall laugh or cry.

My god.... how patetic can people be?

I am a member of the Zorro Group and i have non complains what so ever about the system.
What is every ones problem.... the people in this group is obviously there a very long time and i suppose that is because thay make profit. I know i do...

If people dosen't have anything better to do in their lives i can suggest to start learning some trading technics. It is really a nice business. But stopp making postings etc that you don't have any ground for what so ever.

I can only speak for my self.... but if i couldn't pay the membership by my tradingprofit that the system that Igor provides i wouldn't be there any more.
So... that means that there must be profit. Must it not?

A suggestion for people that missbelive that there is profit: Become a memeber and try it out.

Another point could be that.... why do people that not even are a member care what people that IS members of that gropu is doing.
I think it's better you such people to consentrate more of there own trading then others tradings.

Well.... gotta go.... gotta trade with the system....
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:25 PM
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Bewildered

I have been a member of the Zorro trading group for a number of months and am quite bewildered by what is going on here.

Firstly, let me say that I am not in the habit of wasting my time and money on something that is useless. If Igor and his systems were useless I would have left long ago. Let me tell you that I am a fairly new trader and have preserved my capital under Igor's tutelage (which I didint manage on my own), and I think that is a fair achievement in this game. I could have made significant pips if I had followed the Zorro system mechanically - and this has been the failing of several other members of the group as well. Simple human failing - no fault of Igor or the system. He is trying to address our human tendencies with his latest adaptation - the Matrix system.

As for proof - I an happy to promise to everyone here that the results spreadsheets that Igor used to publish here were accurate - I know as I checked them myself. Now that Alex Winner is publishing statements I hope that will be sufficient.

New Digital I know that you know Igor is not a scammer. He may not be the worlds best trader or teacher - but then again he may be! But he is not a scammer and there a quite a few of us who think he is on to something good and are happy to go for the ride based on he evidence so far.
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ChamionFX,

The only proof you gave just now is that you are again one of those traders that has no more then a couple of 1000$ to trade from.

There is NO ONE and I re-peat NO ONE that would place 100.000$ on a metrader broker.

If you think you would it is because you never had 100.000$ in your hands. Or have not worked to save 100.000$. Once you worked to save 100.000$ you are not going to place them on the account of some sort of an obscure broker.

A serious trader who trades with SERIOUS money, the first concern he has is, who is a relaible broker. A broker where I can place my money and don't need to worry that I will loos my money because he goes bankrupt or runs away to some exotic island, instead of me loosing my money true trading.

But as said that is a problem that you do not need to worry about.

regards...iGoR

PS. You heared maybe of the refco story. I had refco as a broker. Lucky for me and my clients I abbanded them 8 months before they went bankrupt because the signals I saw were clear.
If I would not have noticed the signals and my clients would have been in that bankruptcy I could have closed my business.
Not 1 person would go with serious money to a broker who does not have a telephonic future desk. Try to phone 1 metrader broker....
PS. Go into the commercial section and read "the first 200pips for you" topic.
People who have money with Alecoh can consider their money who was placed with them as totaly burned. An other metrader broker.
PS. Someone with serious money and if he wants to trade the forex is gonna trade that true CME currency futures. OR...OR is going to go for ex. to the Man Fiancial group ( who work with JP morgan as a clearency bank) where people know that they are regulated by the ECN. But they ask 15.000€ to open an account. For the vast majority here on this forum impossible to deliver.
PS. I don't know why you placed those postings of Steve Pickering. Where does he say that one can put large amounts of money with a relaible metrader broker ??...
So please don't try to sell something where you don't now a fart about. Aspecially not to me.
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Wow ! , since when you know me that I trade with couple of $1.000 ?
this had nothing to do with my accounts , tell to the Steve he's small
$1.000 dollar trader .
Point of that post was to show you that there are " PROFESSIONAL" traders
that trade also through MT4 and i don't give a smallest rat how much money they put with MT4 broker and which one .
Alleccoh example was really a low blow from you dumping every MT4 in to Alleccoh's level and plus still some MT4 brokers are at least registererd with NFA.
I traded Futures market and Commodities back in 2000 year and beyond through Refco but was not hit with their sinking as I moved to Forex market
before that did happen .
I wish you stop pushing that agenda here that you know it all and institutional traders would run to your system if they just know about it . Try not to be always right and correct , that way people may actually start like you.
Try to lecture new traders with a new attitude and you will be just fine .
I have myself no problem with people paying you for trading room , if they want to be dependent on someone else , that's their business .

Sincerely,
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Oanda or whatever account

Oanda account or whatever other account statement that can be accessed by userid and pw is perfect but have to fullfill several conditions:

- following just one account for each concept and not mixing them
- reporting all trades you want to take and not just some selections
- at least 100 trades but better several hundert trades history

just printscreens are not acceptable as they can be manipulated. I suppose this is the reason ND is asking for MT statements

it's just to help you learning to face reality and respect others. The average user in this forum will never need your concepts.
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