He is in many cases totally disrespectful to many users, is turning everything which is questioning him against forum users, without providing any verifiable evidences for all his claims, his claims are full of so many obvious contradictions, which is a sign how much he underestimates and disrespects other people’s intelligence. In fact his trading skills and behaviour prove to be far, far below the average of this forum. Sometimes you get the impression he thinks to speak to kindergarten children, while he has to deal with extremely experienced users here in this forum. He seems to be totally out of reality and out of topic here. To me he makes the impression to be a totally confused trader and personality looking in this forum to get some kind of attention and financing for his experiments. This is totally unacceptable especially when attacking other users the way he does and without delivering any evidence for all these claims. When his concept fails then –
- it’s subscriber’s fault not following it as they should, subscribers don’t have money to pay him, that sway they question him

- but he has so much money he can move from one market to the other but though he asks subscribers to finance him his experiments

- subscribers don’t have the money to trade stocks or other instruments but him as a market guru he can forecast by when and in which market volatility is going to jump.

- etc.

This all is really a joke and at the same time a comedy. Who is actually trying to sell here? I suppose him. So he doesn’t even understand what are his duties and his responsibilities against the forum readers and instead he starts attacking them when they ask for the obvious. While in the past we have had in this forum an Italian comedy now we got a Belgian one. These stories have some similarities regarding provider’s behaviour when they got questioned, but the main difference is that you can pay the 85 EUR play a little bit around, find out how useless is the concept and then through it away while the other was selling some useless concepts for I think 1’500-2’500 $.

- Igor is acting here not alone. He is supported by a Russian coder (Alex is a I think his name) and Arctic but it’s very difficult to define their roles in this kind of cooperation. I suppose Alex is helping him in coding the indicators and templates and Arctic in activities supporting his sales efforts. Therefore is better to be a little bit cautious with their comments.

- Igor suffers under the following syndrome: actually he seems not to understand that the most important fact in trading is to understand and manage potential risks and not just the actual risks. This is what mpower and others here try to explain but he doesn’t want to understand it. Have you ever seen him publishing any serious statistics related with his concepts? Me never. All his arguments rely on just some short term observations and risk/reward relations based just on some actual risks. You will see him saying for example, oh my concept did this month a profit of 500 pip and had a drawdown of 250 with my reward/risk ratio being 2 and believes this to be a right statement. I know most of you have already started laughing here if not already before. But he is not the only one thinking that way. Many wannabe traders here or in other forums think exactly that way. There has been an other in this forum claiming how good his concept is and months ago I tried to explain him how crappy is his trading style. Have you maybe seen what happened to him? He managed to wipe out two accounts in less than 1-3 weeks (SIMBA5 - C2 trading system which trades forex, PIPMACHINE - C2 trading system which trades forex). This is exactly the same problem referring to Igor. He doesn’t want to face reality. He just tries out a concept that has coincidentally worked for a while and projects to him this will work the same all the time in the future. After he actually fools himself first then he starts fooling subscribers either intentionally or maybe just because of his wrong assumptions and when the concept start not to work over time, he starts projecting himself the ability to adapt to changing market behaviour. Have you really understood that one? Not only you get an excellent system from Igor but as an Add-on you get the perfect hybrid guru being able to adapt to all structural market changes!!! Worst of all is when he totally underestimates and disrespects other people capabilities and intelligence, gets aggressive when people ask for the most obvious and starts writing huge Romans instead of delivering the real hard facts demanded by the forum visitors. The majority in this forum is reacting correctly by ignoring this thread as it’s not very serious and is just laughing. There is only one medicine for Igor to help him here and this is to start making public all his own track records related to the concepts he tries to sell but then really a full track record and not just only picking some of the good trades appearing every Christmas and Eastern. After a while he may start realizing how wrong he is with his assumptions. As long as he works with virtual spreadsheet statistics he will continue to ignore reality and look for all kind of excuses for not making results public but instead changing all the time his concepts making impossible to follow their performance. In fact by changing his concepts all the time he just tries to make to subscribers the impression they need these adjustments for keeping them paying the monthly fees. It’s just a part of his marketing strategy.

- Lately he launched a new scalping concept. Basically I don’t have details about this concept but usually all these scalping approaches do not work in the long run because the relatively small profits get overcompensated by the few but huge losses, slippage and high commission costs. Especially when reading that the risk concept for the scalping method is the same as for Zorro, then I have to say there is no chance for it to succeed in the long run and the only way for him to prove that it works, is to provide a full set of his track record for a longer time of period by underlining here the word full track record and not just some selections. Only after having this full track record it will be possible to make a judgement about the potential risks and relate them to returns.

- To sum it up, good providers use stable concepts proven in all possible market conditions able to keep losses as low as possible during the “wrong market conditions” and maximizing them during the right ones, are very confident and relaxed and don’t change them all the time as the concepts have already passed all the necessary stress tests. Instead, Igor

o is reacting to criticism very aggressive and tries to reverse the facts by asking users to pay him first and having to prove him he is wrong
o Is not offering free trials nor evidences
o Is changing his concepts as frequently as his under wears
o Speculates on specific market conditions (high volatility and trending market conditions)
o Doesn’t consider potential risks
o Is overestimating and at the same time disrespectfully underestimating other’s abilities and intelligence
o Is not trading for himself the concepts he tries to sell (probably he may know the reason)
o His concepts are not tested long enough nor are they tested for all possible market conditions
o His claims have a lot of contradictions. Once he was mentioning for example to trade only the ES contract, then suddenly you see him saying he trades the BUND future, recently saying trading stocks or metals or whatever. At least very confusing claims.


Sorry for being a little bit long here and sometimes reporting about some very obvious observations for the majority of those being a little bit more experienced in this forum, but I got very disturbed by Igor’s attitudes (rising out of arrogance and inability to face reality) neither to offer free trials nor any evidences for his claims and on top of it to start attacking people for not having money to pay him the fees while he drives a PORSCHE. Sorry but where does it the take the right to ask people to pay him for unverifiable claims? This is another sign about his arrogance. There are so many scammers asking for this kind of fees and if people start buying all of it, then they will end with huge expenses without any reward. In fact people may have much more money than himself (if he has any as I strongly doubt he is trading live) and are willing to pay for quality but don’t like to get fooled even not for one penny or dollar or whatever. Actually it only makes sense to continue discussing this concept if a full track record gets available or at least longer time free trials for forum members, as the provider is using this forum for marketing purposes. Otherwise is better to ignore this thread. The tsd-forum provides a very high quality related to other forums but unfortunately Igor’s behaviour is having a very negative impact to this image which has to be protected in some way.


regards

New digital,

You made your point clear and I promisse I have red every worth at least 3 times. So I realy understand what you mean but I do not realy understandwhat you expect from me.

Please read every word of me at least 2 times.

1) I have never refused to post statements. But before we continue what sort of proof is needed. Posting printscreens or statements ?

If you say from now on it has to be statements I will post them. Even more I gone post real PROFESSIONAL statements and not the sort of postings that a metatrader platform is giving. An example of a statement like that FROM MY BROKER is in attachement here in my posting.
Try to read it and you will say I don't understand one bit what is in that statement. I gonna say to you, you are right. But that is the way a professional statement looks like.
So for that reason I think it is better to post a printscreen of a trading platform so everybody would understand what is happening.

If people say you should give your results for the ZoRRo system with your statements then I made myself already very clear. I DO NOT TRADE THE ZoRRo SYSTEM. The reason why was already explained many times. Because I trade CME currency futures and they do not suply the G/J or the E/J. Or they suply it but with no liquidity or way to much spread.
If someone says that I can not make a profitable system that I do not trade myself then I can only answer: can an ingenieer not devellop a formula 1 car if he does not drive it himself ??....

2) The problem that some people have here is because I have a new system. They say you don't trade the ZoRRo system anymore but the MaTRiX system so you should have a new evaluation. OK. I understand this completely.
But the people who shout this should realy read what I have been posting.
I have been posting the results on my platform that i made and who where ONLY realized with the MaTRiX system ( see links at the bottom)
I have posted the results from an account that was on 478.000$ the 31/1/08 till the 22-04-08. My account was then on 532.000$.
That is a profit of 10%. Some will say is that all but that is nearly 50.000$.
Now very important. That money is NOT MY MONEY. That money is from the fund I manage. But procentagewize over that period and with the draw down I had, my customers are more then happy.

New digital, very important is that every singel day that I traded on that account I have posted my results (printscreens). I understand that you have a lot to read here on this forum but that is A VERY IMPORTANT detail.
A detail that is now a result that people say : you need to give proof of the MaTRiX system. Every trade of that profit I made was according the MaTRiX system. BUT even more important is that every trade I took was called in the room and witnessed by the people in the room. People heared me swearing and yelling when I went in loss and heared my shouting ...YES YES YES when I closed my postions. And saw my posting of my printscreens and saw the trades according those trades that I have called.

Alex has been trying to be a moderator between you and me. I said to him: alex be objective and listen to New digital and to me in an objective way. I do not want to be the person that is right. I do not want that new digital needs to hear that he is wrong.
I said to alex: ask new digital WHAT HE EXACTLY WANTS.

If it is proof, OK but I would like to know exactly what is wrong with the printscreens that I posted ?...
If printscreens are not good enough, OK I gona post the statements from the accounts of one of my customers. (If that customer would know this I am in trouble). But still I want to do this so people could realy see proof.
But again don't complain if you do not understand the statements.

If my proof of my broker is not accepted, OK but then you need to tell me why ?...
It is like you would say to sombody who is accused in court, you can defend yourself but you can not take or that lawyer. In defence each individual has the right to defend himself in the way he wants and with the lawyer he wants.

Of course some of you people can think, maybe he tricks his statements and works with photo shop on his statements.
I understand this. So I am willing to trade on a demo account with an other broker ig it is asked for.
First of all why a demo account ?..Because I manage a fund or managed account. If you trade professional for other people YOU CAN NOT HAVE A PERSONALL ACCOUNT. For obvious reasons. No mixing of interests.
So I can not open a real account as long as I trade for other people.

Second, if I can choose for a demo account I will not trade with a metrader platform. The reason why is that not 1 professional person with serious intentions will ever trade on a metrader platform. If some of the people here ask to do it on a metrader platform it only proofs that they trade with very small money and have no serious intentions in trading and do not understand any other statement.
The most important reason I will never trade on a metrader platform is that for ex. OANDA asks 1 pip on eur. 1.5pips on jpy, 2 pips on E/J, 4 pips on G/J and 4pips on G/C.
Where every metatrader platform is asking a lot more. The euro at least 2 pips. Some of you will say that is only 1 pip more I will say that is 100% more intrading costs.

New digital, I am willing to help and cooperate in a very constructive way.
I am willing to give what people want but in a serious way. And willing to give proof but on serious demands or serious rules.

The only thing that I can add to your other elements that you mensioned in your list : You say severall times: attacking arised.
If I can help you to be more precise it would be: mpower started attacking. mpower started attacking. mpower started attacking.

If you would take the time in the very first posting I made to you a couple of days ago you would read that the guys is more then frustrated and started his vendeta on SBFX.
It is clear that this guy is not making any sence and is only out on attacking without any underbuild elements and only on assumptions.
A moderator should feel that problem and stay 100% objective. If you feel that 2 people absolutly do not get along with each other you tell them that they can NOT post any longer in each others topics.
If other people make remarks or negative postings I allow and accept that completely. And I will answer them straight forworth.
But mpower has no more business not 1posting, not 1 remark to make in my topic.
People kill, people have wars for many years. People even torture eachother. So as a moderator it is no use to say that I have to sort out my business with him. I do not have any connection or business with him what so ever. The easy way is to say to him: Post where ever you want but stay away of iGoR's topic because I know and feel that your attacks are always personall and have nothing to do with his system nore his tradingskills nore his results.

New digital, to sumerise:
- I want to give SERIOUS proof that is needed so people can see that I make profit.
I want to do this from a SERIOUS platform. If the broker where I trade with real money is not accpeted I want to do this from a demo account like OANDA .Because I am personally not allowed to open an other PERSONALL account and I am not going to trade from an un-professional account that is freezing during news items or who is charging way to much spread.
I choose my platform as an accused person is choosing his lawyer.

- I can't ask my members that they will post their statements. What they do or the profits they have is absolutly personall and privat. I can be asked for that but not my members.

- I am willing to make my room public for a couple of days so people can witness that the results posted in the past in the spreadsheets for the ZoRRo system are 100% CORRECT and according the signals that can still be verified now on the historical data.

- If other people have any demands or wishes or questions I will try to aswer them.


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Succes comes with knowledge. Knowledge comes with experience. Experience comes with time and hard work... (iGoR)
To avoid a lot of false trades ask yourself the question:...Am I desperatly looking for a trend because I want to trade...or am I taking a trade because the trend is there...(iGoR)

- With mpower I have no more and reapeat no more business what so ever. Keep him out of my topic and more then half of the problems will stop.
You try to put the blame one me. You are the moderator. A moderators seperates people who fight about stupiditys.
You should feel that I want to help in a constructive way. Ask what he wants to do. If he says : if iGoR does what I ask I will be friendly to him. I can tell you this: He doesn't need to be friendly to me. He needs to stay away from me. I do not want his hands nore his fists. I don't want his flowers nore his bullets. I don't want his aplaud nore his attacks.


Last remark: It would make it all easier if the rules would be written out black on white and would be aplied TO EVERYBODY in the VERY SAME.
After I will give all proof that you and others asked for lets go over some other commercial topics and see if they can ALL come up with results on REAL accounts.
I can tell you that if each topic has to suply results from REAL accounts on a regular base that you can close 95% of the the topics that are in the commercial section. And you know this very well.
I gave proof on a REAL account between the 31-1-08 and a couple of days ago. That is 3 1/2 months. You asked for 3 weeks of demo trading.
So tell me where we go one from here.
BTW I removed my avatar to show you that I am willing to cooperate very seriously.

The links to the printscreens of EVERY day I traded according the MaTRiX system. Many days I did not trade. When I did not trade there was no printscreen taken. Check out the amounts of the total balance if they match up the daily results.
http://www.forex-tsd.com/182928-post356.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/183925-post375.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/184232-post379.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/184785-post392.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/195548-post446.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/195857-post448.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/198200-post456.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/198220-post457.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/198525-post467.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/198869-post470.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/199956-post473.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/200577-post474.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/200986-post476.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/201008-post478.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/202112-post486.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/202190-post490.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/208417-post528.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/208418-post529.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/208419-post530.html
http://www.forex-tsd.com/208420-post531.html

Friendly regards

PS. Bellow the statements from a sub-account that I am willing to post daily when I trade. Please tell me what I need to post. Printscreens or statements from that REAL account of go for ex. to a DEMO oanda account.

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Succes comes with knowledge. Knowledge comes with experience. Experience comes with time and hard work... (iGoR)
To avoid a lot of false trades ask yourself the question:...Am I desperatly looking for a trend because I want to trade...or am I taking a trade because the trend is there...(iGoR)

Thanks for our open opinion.
We are having this sticky thread about rules Section moderated

I was reading your messages and communicated with Alex by PM. And I want to say something:
- when you did your attacking posts on the members of our forum in the way of 50 or 100 attacking posts consistently during the many months so did I ban you? Not. But if other person did it so he should be banned? Yes.
And many other cases and posts.
So, I wanted to keep you on the forum anyway.
But it was too much sorry.
It was too much for any forum.

One example: one seller was banned permanently from the forum only because he could not speak with the members of this forum in peacefull way: he started commercial thread and one guy said something bad about his EA and seller attacked him by 3 or 5 posts in strong way... Seller was banned permanently and no one care who was right in this case: seller or his future client.

In my country, if one group of people want to fight (by weapon for example) with the other group of people (or with police) so they are doing it outside the city with no any people, children, buildings and offices aroud. But when they are doing it inside the city and one group of the people won ... and half of the city was destroyed ... one group of people can say: "We won! We were right!". But as half of the city was destroyed incl cats and dogs on the street so no one will reply

As I understand your signals are producing by MetaTrader. So it is not difficult for you to make the statements.
I did the statements for public asctrend system.
And I could not start public signal calendar without trading it for few weeks (i had to trade it for few week before publish in public). It was free systems and fee services.
So, it will not be difficult for you to make understandable discussionable statements for the systems you are selling. To turn all the discussion in technical way from private things. Because there is "small" differencies between indicators setup on the chart with good looking signals to enter and manual trading system.

Moderators are having the right to react if everything is right but if everything is going not in right way so moderators will not have any right to act right sorry. I do not know how to explain more. I think I explained everything.

So, I am reposting my message one more time here:

Good day to all!
My morning trade in the statement - http://greenfutura.narod.ru/

This is Zorro 15 min charts....

Dear Subscribers,
I know Igor since october 2006. At first sight he seemed a fairly crazy and exited person shouting at his chart or to anyone listening to him. After couple days I realised he did not shout to anyone but was speaking loudly in a pasionate and emotional way. At that time we were at the simple TSR stage.
Igor wants to tramsit his passion for trading like other (as myself) have other kind of passion they try to transmit to their friends, clients , etc..
He wants to teach trading and in our group I suppose there are people new to tradings and traders who have more experience or even maybe professional trader aswell.
We are all free to follow anyone willing to share his/her knowledge with others, for free or for fees.
We have the right to choose what we think is convenient for us.
After Tsr simple, Igor tought us Tsr advanced, then Zorro, and now Matrix. All theses are not different systems, but rather an evolution of Tsr simple, different startegies of the same approach.
Now, about statements.....One of the arguments which has convinced me to follow Igor, is that not only Igor was explaning how to understand his approach even repeating the explanations many many times, but he was calling trades in the room! But this is not all, we had a printscreen of his real trading account statement every day!
Everyone of us could and still can leave the zorro group anytime if anything is wrong, there is no contract between Igor and Members.
So guys, be honest and strict to yourselfs, live and let live, I come to this forum from time to time and one thing come to my mind: probably Igor creates some jalousy around him (probably most of traders here are loosing traders) and I also wonder if other traders provide statements.
About his avatar, Igor did not ask my opinion so let it be....anyway he did'nt have to ask anyone's opinion!!!
I wish you all to be happy, for myself I ow much to Igor who did not teach me all I know about trading but I learn the essential in trading, which in fact we can apply in real life.
In this way I close the circle, being a martial artist for more than 30 years, I have found a way to put butter on my bread that suits my entire self.
So to conclude I wish you all to be as happy as I am, in your trading, in your passions, in your private life and most important : to be able to make others happy!!!
Kind Regards
Miko

No one need to ask any opinion and everybody can do whatever they want on this forum only if admins were kidnapped or killed (by posts or any). If still alive so it is necessary to do concerning opinion or any. Sorry for this joke

And one more time: any "fighting" or battle between the groups of commercial people, please, do outside of our forum/territory/country/house. Do it inside your commercial group, or inside your house, or create special forum for that. If the battle or "fighting" happened on our forum so please be responsible for that.

An one more time: