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Yes let's wait when Igor comes back when the DD will get better.
Let's hope that he will give detailed trade results in order for us to see the maximum lot size and the maximum open drawdown.
Until that no need to insult people, it doesn't help Igor to make pips !
No need to insult people...So ,why do you keep insulting iGor? You do a fairly good job insulting yourself..what part of "I don`t care about his results" didn`t you understand?
I will take your comments at face value,as somebody that just wants to clarify a point...ok?The headlines are these :
I don`t use this system,nor do I defend it
1-One year ago,I spent a month as iGor customer(the system was different then,no MM of the kind he has now,and probably other changes which I am unaware of too),I took a few pieces of his system and incorporated them in my trading methods,at very different timeframes...then I left the group,I considered my money and time well spent...that`s all I can say about his system....
...So,in my opinion his system is intriguing to say the least..that`s all...Its main drawback may be risk...Let`s see what happens without unnecessary attacks to iGor..if the system destroys or makes tons of money..reality will show.
Now..regarding my Live results..ok,you are lucky,you are gonna see what very few have had opportunity to see(yes..it is bigger than yours...by far)..choose ONE number 2 to 11( I will post 1 Now too so that you see the headings..they are in chronological order for 3 months) and I will post your choice next post....
Regards
Simba
Ok..continuation of my Live trading results,with 2,since you didn`t choose
BTW..Minime has left me a "visitor`s message"...you can check it and my reply here
The moral of the story,and its relation with this thread(besides the continuous comments to "prove who you are" and "post live statements" and "Big Mouth" ) is that to generate consistent wins you must have had losses and learnt from them...and never,never,absolutely never drop your guard when in a trade.
Well,iGor lessons are distilled experience,they can save you tons of money and lots of time...you will still have to "travel your own road",but you will probably get there faster...and I repeat,I do not use this system nor do I defend it...what I defend is the value of iGor as a teacher and as a member of this forum.
Linuxser,ND..Could you please approve my attachment?It has been there for hours.
Regards
Simba
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No need to insult people...So ,why do you keep insulting iGor? You do a fairly good job insulting yourself..what part of "I don`t care about his results" didn`t you understand?
I don't insult Igor, I just discuss and challenge the MM and the drawdown of his system.
That is quite different.
You don't discuss the system and don't care about results but just insult other people. I don't think it is the purpose of this thread.
I don't insult Igor, I just discuss and challenge the MM and the drawdown of his system.
That is quite different.
You don't discuss the system and don't care about results but just insult other people. I don't think it is the purpose of this thread.
Yes,you did insult iGor..you didn`t realize because your are not very clever,you challenge everything because you can`t accept reality..as Milkymonkey does,you defame what you don`t like..because you can`t do it.
I discussed the system...you just didn`t realize that ...and I didn`t insult anybody,actually ,I was very generous in my evaluations
The purpose of this thread is not for you to assuage your frustrations on iGor,mainly because he can trade circles around you,so you will end up even more frustrated than you actually are..its purpose is for all of you,little mongoloids,to project your incompetence on iGor,so that you have the psy excuse to stay being prey for a few more months..that is what this resorts to..a bunch of losers attacking an experienced trader so that they can feel better at losing and we can keep milking them ...
Does it hurt?...If it does,you are starting to learn,if it doesn`t...well,no need to explain,time will show you...just buy some vaseline .
Yes,you did insult iGor..you didn`t realize because your are not very clever,you challenge everything because you can`t accept reality..as Milkymonkey does,you defame what you don`t like..because you can`t do it.
I discussed the system...you just didn`t realize that ...and I didn`t insult anybody,actually ,I was very generous in my evaluations
The purpose of this thread is not for you to assuage your frustrations on iGor,mainly because he can trade circles around you,so you will end up even more frustrated than you actually are..its purpose is for all of you,little mongoloids,to project your incompetence on iGor,so that you have the psy excuse to stay being prey for a few more months..that is what this resorts to..a bunch of losers attacking an experienced trader so that they can feel better at losing and we can keep milking them ...
Does it hurt?...If it does,you are starting to learn,if it doesn`t...well,no need to explain,time will show you...just buy some vaseline .
P.S:Live Results...Choose next number..3 to 11
Enjoy
Simba
I know that you just try to distract people by insulting other members, but no worries we will stay focus on the system
On the last big drawdown when people where worried Igor created a new filter (20 contracts filter was the name I guess)
Now there is again a big drawdown and it is very interesting to see how Igor will revise his MM, either by modifying it deeply or just by adding a new filter for this specific drawdown.
What is the problem with all of you. Read the postings of some senior members that were a member of my group (like simba) Read the only thing that is important to you:... the 89€ and time was well spend.
So if a senior member that has more experience then all of you together, says it was worth the money, who are you with hardly any experience to judge my system and who were never a member of the group ?!....
yes, i see.
that is very good and true.so why he left the room?
yes, i see.
that is very good and true.so why he left the room?
I was making too much money...If I kept at it you will ALL be poor...seriously.
HaHaHaHa...unbelievable ,man this is crazy,keep posting these kind of jokes while we take your money in the markets...hey,anything for customer`s satisfaction.
I left the room because it was too dark,and I was afraid of meeting you...BUUU..
yes, i see.
that is very good and true.so why he left the room?
He probably left the room because some of us dont rely on handouts from others, we develop our own idea's and strategies, and we'll quite happily evaluate the ideas of those who have something of value to offer, and we are generally quite happy to pay to do so
Igor's MM plan, and the work he's quite clearly put into developing the filters is worthy of study, where I not so ridiculously busy day to day, I'd quite happily pay for a couple of months access to his room, I suspect that the exposure would have a positive benefit, I might not agree with Igor on many issue's but his arguments are always worth considering. Whilst its amusing to watch the pathetic gang mentality of a bunch of losers, its a little unfair on the membership of sites such as this in general that those who do have knowledge to share inevitably refuse to do so precisely because of this type of behaviour.
Some of you people need to face up to reality, you dont have what it takes to succeed, so move on and do something constructive with your time, even if its only flipping burgers.
yes, i see.
that is very good and true.so why he left the room?
Learn to read.
Read over simba's posting where he said that he was a member of my group and what he did with what he learned....
Simba: ......."I took a few pieces of his system and incorporated them in my trading methods,at very different timeframes"......
You are still at a stage that you think that you only need to find a system that makes money. In a later stage (if you have the time and the money) you are going to find out that a system is like a pair of shoes....they need to fit you. In your future trading you will discover a lot more elements that will make you not to follow a system then the profits it makes.
But no attack to you because even in the room I hear nearly weekly the question when I develloped something new : igor what makes the most money now? the previous "system or this "new" system?... Where my answer is every time DO NOT LOOK TO THE PROFITS...look to the mental problems that a system can give you...(to many trades ...to few trades....to complicated....a draw down that can last longer but where you have very few contracts to take in...a drawd down that can be very steep and fast but recovers very fast but you need to take in more contracts....looking to short times frames where you are hijacked by the system all day long....looking to longer time frames but that you can not interveen till a 1 hour bar is closed....very high hitrate but losses that are many times bigger then a profit or profits that are a lot bigger then the losses but then automaticly a very low hitrate......etc....etc....
So there are many people like you who enter the room based on the results they see that I post but once they need to trade my system they encounter one of these problems and ....they feel that the shoe doesn't fit to their feet....
But never the less they learned a great deal in trading because I teach every thing about trading from morning till evening.
Or there are indeed just people (MAYBE like simba) who just wants to see what is going on in the room and want to see that everything is going correctly, not with the idea to take over the system or to trade that system.
Only to see that everything happens in the room as is posted on my topic. They paid a small amount for that and they are convinced now.
Instead of some other people here who scream like little children at a closed door and give more then proof that they do not want to spend the small amount of money to give proof to themselves.
Actually they know that everything is going correctly but they don't want to be convinced because it would take a way their little toy...(when feeling borred making a posting here to get rid of their frustrations).....
regards...iGoR
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On the last big drawdown when people where worried Igor created a new filter (20 contracts filter was the name I guess)
Now there is again a big drawdown and it is very interesting to see how Igor will revise his MM, either by modifying it deeply or just by adding a new filter for this specific drawdown.
let's wait patiently that the drawdown is over
Jlpi,
You make it sound that you sit here just by pure interest. The healthy interest that a trader should have that wants to learn something.
But please don't be a hypocrite. If you are an attacker then attack. But don't insult yourself by suddenly looking like a wolf in sheapskinn.
Don't make it suddenly sound that you only have good intentions or that you are here just to have an open and sensible debate. You even said you enjoy the feeling if you could keep only 1 person out my room.
If in real life I want to talk or debate with somebody and I see that the other person has not the same intentions then I am going to leave it for what it is and I am not going to start to stalk that person till he or she would have a debate. Beside good trading behaviour I also know what normal social behaviour is.
You have none of the behaviours.
You are here because you are borred and you feel good attacking The igor. By this you feel that you would have as much trading knowledge as I have. Witch honestly, you don't. If you would, you would teach in my room and I would be strolling along this forum looking for a system or a topic where maybe I can pick up a grain of knowledge.
About waiting for my results you will wait a long time ( but if you are a bit of a trader then you know that patience is a nescessarity for a trader....). There have been times that I did not post any results. Then people said that I should come more in the open because people do not really believe my results. Then I came in the open with the results. I posted them daily. I even gave public webinars but then some other people felt the nescessarity to attack every possible trade that has been traded and every drawdown I post they see it as my ship is sinking.
So I came to the conclusion that I am not here on this topic to entertain people like you and claudioforex. But that my job and concern and responsibility is in the trading room.
So I am finished with results and explaining and public webinars. The MM is indeed completely revised (as I explained fully in my monthly recap on january) and it want be possible to be copied.
With my previous MM some people made spread sheets about it to show it is rubish and even EA's with the MM but placed on other systems to show it would blow up an account....etc.....
In the past months I have even seen several people who joined my group only to learn the MM and then next month they were gone. Also finshed with that.
No more webinars on any of my MM's and no more daily postings on my results.
And if you would say that this way it is easy for me at the end of the month to show a spread sheet with a 5000pip profit and that the drawdown vanished into thin air because you can not check my daily results and that my results are probably cheated and that I am a scammer, then I don't give a damm. The members in my room know I am not and that is what counts.
If the members in the room know what I do and I know what they do and we both agree with each other then task forfilled.
regards and lots of patience...iGoR
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