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Originally Posted by altahob
Many thanks but the 85 EUR is not the point. My time is money and I will happily pay a lot of money for an independently proven system. I must admit I am interested in Igors systems but the postings on this thread are too random to ascertain if there is an edge.
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Hi Altahob,
I understand you completely...I realy do.
But try to see it from OUR point of vieuw. And with OUR I mean the members of the room.
I the room over the last weeks the mentality grew that members say: What do we need to proof to the people who stand on the side line ?...
The members have felt more then a bit that the proof that was asked here from some people was only to sow some controversie and was never asked by them with the intention to become a member.
It was from people who had more a personal issue against me then the results that I "claimed"....
The members were anonimous in the room when they said: what the hell is wrong with them...if they want proof well that they become a member and come to the room ...PERIOD.
People on the side line started to doubt me because they saw no support or it was from Arctic. They tought that no one else beside him was making money or would support me.
The reason for that is that the members know that I am old and wize enough that I need no one else to help me here or to deffend myself.
After that severall member stept forworth and were clear about the fact that they are more then satisfied with their membership and will stay members, some people on the side line felt that maybe the room or his results are not a scam.
Some people started to post their results and profits and now and then also a loss.
Not 1 person came forworth and said I was a member and that system DOES NOT work.
I don't say that everybody is continioulsy making profit. ABSOLUTLY NOT.
But the people who don't make any money or are even losing money, know that only they are the ones to blame because they do not stick to the system.
The big majority of the people think that if one has a system that makes money then it is clear that they should make money.
Believe me the rule will always stand with whatever kind of a system, how robust and profitable it can be, give it to 10 people and 1 will make extreem money, 1 will make some profits, 2 will turn break even and 6 will loos money with it.
The people who loos have the tendency to blame it on the system.
And I know that very well. That is why people enter the first time in the room that I give quite a long speach that they need to STICK TO THE RULES of the system and don't try to think that they can do better.
I say also very clearly, if you do not stick to the rules of the system and you end up with losses at the end of the month then don't blame the system. You are the only one to blame. You, that does not have the discipline to stick to a system.
That is why you don't see any complaints about results over the last 8 months because they know that if they would have sticked to the rules that their profits should be in line with the results I have been posting in the original topic in the commercial section of this forum.
Many drop off after a month because they realize that trading is indeed not their cup of tea. They realize that this is an amazing system and if they can not make it work they realize that no other system will make them profitable.
So over the last 8 months, I not only learned severall people how to trade and how to be profitable but I made even more people realize that they should quit trading and pick up a normall 9 to 5 job.
Even that I am proud of because without me they maybe would have lost a lot more money before they realized that they are not made for trading.
All people in here have the tendency to think that everyone can be a trader.
They all heared about the 5% rule. That 95% of the people are loosing money and that only5% is making money.
But they all have the arogance to think that they will get amongst that 5%.
At one side it makes me angree that people can not stay humble or realistic that the chance to be amongst the 95% is 90% more then to be amongst the 5%. But on the other hand, I am glad for that because if they would not think that way there would not be any fresh money comming in the market. And if only those 5% of traders have to trade against each other they would not earn a lot of money.
Conclusion: I know I can say what ever I want about my system but I will try to post as many as possible results in the future on my original topic.
If people doubt the printscreens then they should realize that there IS NO WAY to trick those printscreens because everything happens LIVE in a VIDEO room ( people see on their pc what I am doing on my pc).
If people want real proof then come to the room. If you have complaints after you came to the room then post them in the original topic so all people can hear your complaint.
Try to read over 8 months of postings and see if you can find 1 serious complaint about the system or the results. NOPE.
If someone is realy hesitating to come to the room because he thinks that he could get ripped off for 85€, then that proofs that for that person 85€ means quite some money. And then I sujest to that person if 85€ feels like quiite some money then don't start trading. Find yourself first a normal job and save enough money before you trade.
I can only give here a PUBLIC promisse that if the system doesn't make you at least 100pips then next month you enter for free and next month and next etc...
Each member of the room knows that 100pips is a joke. That the profits are hundreds and hundreds of pips each month IF you stick to the system.
Someone who doesn't stick to the rules will get away with hundreds of pips in loss. It sounds strange but that is why the element DISCIPLINE is considered as THE MOST important key element in trading and that it makes the difference between the 95% and the 5%.
Friendly regards...iGoR