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Old 02-26-2007, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by gdreporter
Just a simple idea from a newbie:
1- Is it possible to use the hedging for the loosing trades ?
2- Is it possible to increment the number of lots for the winning trades if we are sure that the trend will continue?

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1 is usually useless no matter the strategy - you'll end up with loss, no matter if you accept it or not
2 is done eeeaaasily and it really helps.

14% drawdown and over $25,000 profit with 75% wins isn't that fantastic. did you test it in the long term or the short term? if its 2,5 years then its okay.

see attached file for details
oh and if you can't read russian, just open another statement and compare the numbers.

...I still don't get how it works though...
-edit- I'll make things simple for everyone: the reason I made another EA from dolly EA is quite simple - I was not satisfied with it. As I found out not so long ago, dolly expert, while working in the backtest, calculates totally weird numbers for pivot points. They are not high+low+close/3 as in usual pivot, usually those pivots are few pips off the opening of the day (actually close+open+open/3, you can find a place where high and low of yesterday are replaced with open of today in the indicator) but it works absolutely fine when attached to the graphs (on a demo account pivot = high+low+close/3 always). I've tried to get pivots in any possible way but only found out that there isn't a simple formula to calculate it. So if anyone could debug the old dolly indicator (dolly graphics (M) is its name) it would help greatly.

short variant = dolly pivot on backtest =/= dolly pivot on demo trading
but its highly profitable

-end of edit-

sorry for jumping into the middle of something, just felt like it
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:49 AM
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Backtest of version 2.4 for GBPUSD show best results using settings of 10, 60, 1.4, true.

14% drawdown and over $25,000 profit with 75% wins

Robert
Robert;
Please update us on any new good setting you may achieve, personally I am not good in backtests so I take the settings you recomend for my live tests.
Thanks
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Old 02-26-2007, 03:31 AM
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I'm done optimizing. Retesting results with MM, they differ greatly..
edit: 2,5 year result - I got over-optimized. It gets easily to 476k profit with 40% drawdown during 2006 but fails to perform well (200k and around) on the longer time period. I'll have to optimize for the 2005 and see if there is any correlation between results.
posting the expert for you to play with...
dolly graphics is an indicator and should be put into indicators folder.
Best settings: TP 400 SL 200 UrovenBezubitka 15 (I'll rename it a bit later, its profit you have before you start moving SL to breakeven) Trailing stop 105. These work on a long TF producing 247k profit in 2,5 years. 680 days, 604 deals. Almost every day.
As of 2006 - TF 400 SL 200 UrovenBezubitka 65, trailing stop 85. That makes 500k during 2006 and 372k for 2,5 years with 75% drawdown...
I'll be optimizing on the whole period with MM now.
Have fun with the EA!
Good to see that you are still here Shinigami, your backtest setting are different that the one you posted, would you pls update those settings, also what do you mean by
Timeorders1 and Timeorders2 is it the trading time session? and if so what sessions your trading ? at what broker time?

I am not really good in backtests but I have noticed the following:

1-Dolly_Expert2_mm_breakeven_ATRtrail backtests are based on 15 min chart (29261 bars), while DIN_KusKus_EA_v2.4 is on 5 min (54361 bars)
2-Start on Dolly_Expert2_mm_breakeven_ATRtrail test is 2006.01.02 while DIN_KusKus_EA_v2.4is 2006.08.18
so more time for testing but less bars are counted !!
3- Both 90% quality

if I am not wrong that means we are not looking at apple to apple comparison... it only means we have two good programmers here Shinigami and Robert

There are a couple of ppls who can help with Dolly graphics, cja, hymns, linuxser they are active members on forex-tsd.com and finally the creator valasholic@yahoo.com

BTW pls feel free to jump in whenever you feel like it
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Old 02-26-2007, 04:21 AM
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Hi guys, found this thread a few days ago and went through Dolly, Nana and Isakas's thread.


First thing, I'll like to thank you guys on the amount of effort that's been put into this EA.


Got a couple of questions regarding DIN_KusKus_EA_2.4

Has anyone tried to backtest this EA using the visual mode?

I noticed the GMACD, and DIGISTOCH don't display the correct info.
If your running M5 Period test, only the M5 figures would change, the other signals stay the way they are. Running M30 Period test, only M30 would change.


2. The entry condition seems to only check if all the indicators agree on the current bar, then it enters. but that would allow entries at the wrong time.
i.e. instead of checking if price crossed the ema50, it checks if price is above ema50. and if ashi candle turned from red to blue, it checks if its blue.


3. The exit condition seems to exit when all the indicators disagree with your current position. from my testing, the trades usually hit their stop loss before this condition is met.




Thats what I've noticed so far, please advise if I've mistaken.

Thanks
Dominic
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okay lets see...
The "thing" I used to get that result (I can't call that an EA because it works only in the backtest) makes great results which I can't beat. Only in backtest though.
I'm posting here the new EA I wrote. Yes, its a new EA, it doesn't use any indicators. I'm posting .ex4 so you can play around with settings, optimal ones for 2006 are defaults (optimals I found, using SL of 200 makes things even better but thats almost a suicide)
If you have any problems with it, let me know.


Dominic-chan you rock! Thanks for noticing! And sorry for being that sarcastic but thats exactly how experts work
If every time we got a new tick we tested if we crossed EMA and all other conditions, it would take years to backtest such an EA.
Instead we can use a veeeery simple thing:
if(prev_time==Time[0])
return(0);
prev_time=Time[0];
this way we would only work (open new positions, close old positions ect ect) once per bar, on the start of the new bar (seems to be the best solution I've found)
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Old 02-26-2007, 04:54 AM
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Especially for MiniMe
2006.08.18 - now
Results for Tenchi_v1:
risk 0,1
Drawdown 17.76%
Profit 56k
Profit factor 2.38
risk 0,08
Drawdown 14.35%
Profit 37,5k
PF 2.49
85% winning, 8 wins in a row, 1 loss in a row (average)

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I backtested DIN_KusKus_EA for GBPUSD using the same period as MrPip and got similar results as him. But using other periods and other currencies, EURUSD, USDCAD, the EA did not perform profitably.

Shinigami
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If you look at the image I attached, it shows where the EA can make mistakes (Circled entrance). While the conditions may still be true, it was no longer a good entrance.




Sorry in advance if I may seem rude. Just trying to contribute with my findings?

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I like it when someone writes somethingis specailly for me , thanks Shinigami , great results, but only ex4 LOL. I will put it on eBay.

Welcome DomChan ... good to have you here and have your input and comments.

I will answer the picture , b4 Mrpip give you an answer in BOLD font ...
that entry point is because the EA is set to trade on Assian session and Europe sessions, the NY session is disabled by default, as per tests it shows most losses, so its not a mistake what happened is that when Asian market opened and the rules are met the trade was placed.

I hope my answer is correct or Mrpip will correct me

Don't be sorry, your comments are really valiable and we respect everyone here, as said in the first post we are trying to find a good system and help each other so keep on running the tests pls share with us your comments
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i am using Interbank demo server to test DIN_KusKus_EA 2.4. The backtest is not giving any good result. What server do u guys use? Can the EA be done in such way, like the buy or sell will only be executed when Kuskus Starlight changes from negative to positive or vice versa? And there will be only one trade when the signal occur?tq. I found out that Kuskus is very accurate in 1 hour tf, and if you only buy or sell when Kuskus starlight just changes from negative to positive or another way round, basically u will have more than 80% winning trades. I only look at Kuskus starlight and Stepma_stoch.
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Old 02-26-2007, 06:51 AM
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i am using Interbank demo server to test DIN_KusKus_EA 2.4. The backtest is not giving any good result. What server do u guys use? Can the EA be done in such way, like the buy or sell will only be executed when Kuskus Starlight changes from negative to positive or vice versa? And there will be only one trade when the signal occur?tq. I found out that Kuskus is very accurate in 1 hour tf, and if you only buy or sell when Kuskus starlight just changes from negative to positive or another way round, basically u will have more than 80% winning trades. I only look at Kuskus starlight and Stepma_stoch.
EA version 1.6 is pure Isakas mode , ver 1.8 and 2.4 have more than Isakas rules... all the rules are met or no trade will occur and please read Mrpip comments.

Tests are done on database collected over time, which you can download from alpari site, there is a procedure to run backtests to achive 90% you can find it somewhere on forex-tsd.com, so running interbank demo server or any other server does not matter for backtest, as they are done offline, although the data from one broker to another may differ but the end reults will not be very big difference
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