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Old 12-16-2006, 08:50 AM
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CJA..thanks for your reply but i've tried with no succes could you post a picture of the settings i should change in that version that could show me the past historical lines ( once based on open and another on pivot)..sorry if im asking too much
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Old 12-16-2006, 10:06 AM
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CJA..thanks for your reply but i've tried with no succes could you post a picture of the settings i should change in that version that could show me the past historical lines ( once based on open and another on pivot)..sorry if im asking too much


Somewhere along the line of updates the OPEN line has been deleted from Backtesting - i have added that function back in.

To backtest you go into the inputs tab after right clicking on a chart and selecting INDICATORS LIST in the box that pops up, then select the indicator out of the list and click on it to highlight it then click on EDIT, click on INPUTS
select Back_Test _Days and put in the number of days, now the Central PIVOT or the OPEN will automatically backdate with the graphics, if you want you can select Pivots or Daily HI/LO and the full set of Pivots and Daily HI/LO will back date as well.

This will not show each day as an individual day as in each separate day stepping up or down , it shows you the setup for the last day you have selected. If you select 3 days for example move the chart to the right bringing up the last of the Left hand graphics ( It pays to have the show period separators on so you can see the days separated by a line ) that last graphic is a display of the setup on the 3 rd day.

As i said before any of the latest Dolly's will back date however the OPEN Line was not doing that. I have supplied a new indicator and put BT for BackTest on it to avoid confusion, this indicator is identical to Dolly v10 which switches between the PIVOT & OPEN Setups.

The 2 screenshots show a 5 & 3 Day back test - i repeat only the far left day on the chart shows the setup for that day. If you select 1 day backtest it will show the setup for yesterday if 2 day backtest it will show 2 days ago etc
I hope this helps

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Old 12-16-2006, 10:35 AM
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Sorry it has taken so long I have been busy, this indicator can now switch between a Pivot setup and an Open setup thanks to hymns for the code.

Post 1010 where you got the 1st MM indicator now has the new MM Short_LINES v2 with full code
Cja (and Hymns) thank you!

It is interesting, that this free Dolly looks so much better that commercial.

May I ask you one question. I saw you codded pivot, fib, mm resistance lines into Dolly graphic - cool, thank you again!

Since you also just updated MM_Short_lines_2, which MM lines are you going to use with Dolly, those from MM_Short_Lines_2 or those coded into Dolly graphic? I couldn't get them to match, so I need to make decision which are primary. I really like MM_Short_lines_2.

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the differences are ususally because people like to use different periods - Period 32 is the recomended one for 4X but i prefer a 64 period some also use 16 but it works no matter which period you use.
I guess, one thing is confuzing heck out of us unexperienced MM wannabe users

Say price is aproaching to +1/8 level. So I'm thinking, OK, based on rules, most of the time, when +1 is penetrated it goes toward +2 then turn and we have nice reversal play. Sell order! (so far so good)

Now I'm switching chart from M30 to say M60 and lines are on different place. Now price is at say 6/8. Now what?!? That way looks like you have buy/sell signas based on which time frame you are looking at. But newbie wish to see only buy or only sell signal. Kinda makes it easier lol

And this is what it is so confuzing. You sopouse to act base on rules, which base on where (at which line) is the price, but every time frame show different picture.

They are trying at MM thread to create MM version, that will automatically change period if you will change time frame (v9b I think is already behaving that way) - so lines should be on the same place.

Thank you for all your unselfis and hard work!

Mario

Ps: Daily High/Low are showing previous day levels - it is meant to be that way, correct?

Pps:

Qazq - thank you for tutor link. Now I see, our Dolly is much better lol

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Old 12-16-2006, 10:59 AM
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Cja (and Hymns) thank you!

It is interesting, that this free Dolly looks so much better that commercial.

May I ask you one question. I saw you codded pivot, fib, mm resistance lines into Dolly graphic - cool, thank you again!

Since you also just updated MM_Short_lines_2, which MM lines are you going to use with Dolly, those from MM_Short_Lines_2 or those coded into Dolly graphic? I couldn't get them to match, so I need to make decision which are primary. I really like MM_Short_lines_2.



I guess, one thing is confuzing heck out of us unexperienced MM wannabe users

Say price is aproaching to +1/8 level. So I'm thinking, OK, based on rules, most of the time, when +1 is penetrated it goes toward +2 then turn and we have nice reversal play. Sell order! (so far so good)

Now I'm switching chart from M30 to say M60 and lines are on different place. Now price is at say 6/8. Now what?!? That way looks like you have buy/sell signas based on which time frame you are looking at. But newbie wish to see only buy or only sell signal. Kinda makes it easier lol

And this is what it is so confuzing. You sopouse to act base on rules, which base on where (at which line) is the price, but every time frame show different picture.

They are trying at MM thread to create MM version, that will automatically change period if you will change time frame (v9b I think is already behaving that way) - so lines should be on the same place.

Thank you for all your unselfis and hard work!

Mario

Ps: Daily High/Low are showing previous day levels - it is meant to be that way, correct?

Pps:

Qazq - thank you for tutor link. Now I see, our Dolly is much better lol
There are no MM lines coded into the Dolly indicators you must be getting confused with the Daily Pivot M levels which are the Pivots between the Main Daily Pivots.

Yes the Daily High/Low is supposed to show the previous day levels.

As to the MM levels being different on the different timeframes that is the whole point of using MM levels, where price is on each timeframe gives an overall picture of probable price trend and reversals, the more timeframes confirm a reversal for example if price is moving up M1 at the 8/8 - M5 at the 8/8 - M15 at 4/8 - M30 at 4/8 - H1 at 3/8 - H4 at 7/8 all of these positions would suggest a reversal move and of course the speed and angle that price approaches a level is also important. If you want to treat the MM like Pivot levels i suggest using the Octave indicator as that does not change between time frames.
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This is not the original Dollyv03 but was made for someone who wanted just lines a little while ago so i added the type for you.
This one it is just lines and can also swtich from PIVOT to OPEN setups
The type size can be altered and shifted in the inputs tab

This version does not have any Comments giving trade entries, if you need that let me know.

I Hope this will give you what you want

cja

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Thanks for your help CJA,

Can you please the Dolly V03 i like this V02 but to behonest V03 with just the current day line will be the best...

Thanks in advance
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CJA..thanks again for your replyin post#1042..but this wasn't what i meant..so i had to go back to the old versions and i found that v4.2 is nearly what i'm looking for but only for pivot..so is there any other version for the historical graphics or lin based on open(with separate days i mean)..thanks again.
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Old 12-16-2006, 07:10 PM
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Hi I love dolly as you all know but I'm confused with the subthread, should I download the latest Dolly Graphics from this thread or should we move to the Subthread totally?

Which means this thread contains only the fundamentals of Dolly and the history of how it was born.
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:36 PM
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Hi I love dolly as you all know but I'm confused with the subthread, should I download the latest Dolly Graphics from this thread or should we move to the Subthread totally?

Which means this thread contains only the fundamentals of Dolly and the history of how it was born.

The Dolly thread is for the original PIVOT based Dolly the new SUB thread is for the new OPEN based Dolly so we can compare results, just download the latest Dolly 10 as it has the ability to setup for either trading stradergy code courtesy of hymns. Post 1042 has the latest with the Back Testing upgraded.
If you are happy with the original Dolly system just stay with this thread as we will be updating and providing support as usual.

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Here I post Dolly Expert Advisor,
But it still needs a little "tweaking"

Feel free to improve it .
ancoll,

sorry to trouble you again. i try use the Dolly Expert Advisor. I am able to do the backward testing. but the face on the top right hand corner is always an unhappy face .. which means its not working..

care to give some comments on how u install it..

what i did was, put 4 files into the experts folder.
1) EA_Dolly Graphics(M).ex4
2) EA_Dolly Graphics(M).mq4
3) EA_Dolly_Expert2.ex4
4) EA_Dolly_Expert2.mq4

I double click on just the EA_Dolly_Expert2 as shown below.



using NF platform here.




oh ya.. just to add, i also did put those 4 files into the indicator folder as well.
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Go to tools/options, select the expert advisors tab and make sure the "Allow Live Trading" box is selected.
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