The membership starts the 1st of the new month.

regards...iGoR

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I was not planning on posting here, because Igor is a nice guy and needs to feed like everyone else. However, some of the people in the trading room (Leket to be specific) are quite offensive when they have a losing day or in bad mood (again Leket to be specific). Because of Leket (mainly), I am going to tell you what's goes on in the "trading group", to which I WAS subscribed for a month.

To put it quite simply, Igor has not discovered any sort of Holy Grail which is exactly what it sounds like every time he reiterates that his equity curve keeps growing. All Igor is doing is using something called the "Labouchere System" -- read about ALL specifics here: The Labouchere System (PM me if you don't understand how it is applied.)

He basically says to divide your account size into small pieces and follow the Labouchere progression system which you can read and understand at the link above. That is _ALL_ his money management is. Nothing more, nothing less.

The other stuff about 50% hit rate and all that nonsense is complete bull. Take any system, trade it with Labouchere money management and you will get the same results as the "Super Safe" Zorro S&R or the S&R Zorro matrix bull or whatever the hell other kind of a name he comes up with.

Save your $$$. More importantly, save yourself the frustration and feeling of 'I got ripped off again'.

By the way. Igor had a 40% draw down in one day. Of course he recovered fast. Anyone using Labouchere or any other kind of Semi-Martingale system like that will recover in a day or two.

But sooner or later, as it has been proven many many many times over and over and over again, the day will come when that 1 day DD of 40% will turn into a 1 day account blow up, regardless of what account size you have.

Another thing that I want to mention is that Igor shows the account balance on his account every once in a while, but he doesn't show a detailed trade history. He said he had around 30K draw down trading BUND futures last week. The minimum margin requirement by his broker PER CONTRACT on the BUND is around $2500. He had to enter with at least 29 contracts which means he had to have $72500 (or somewhere around there) in his account of MARGIN ONLY. Well if he had lost $30 000 from the $70 000, how he managed to get in with 29 contracts and have the $72500 needed MARGIN is beyond me. Maybe he put money in temporarily from another account recovered from his losses and than took the money out? Would YOU know the difference if he had done that? Naaah. Why? Because you only see that circled green $77K number on his platform and that circled green of how much he had made for the day.

How he really did it, I guess we will never know. But I think we can BET on something not being straight.

(Oooh, he did stop the live video to his platform when he was in the draw down in order to concentrate). Hehehe.

Anyway, you won't learn anything different from what I have stated on this post. Best thing to do is save your money and feel that you were not tricked by another "Holy Grail" wanna be. If you need me to answer questions, and you are not iGor, please PM me, if not, good luck.

(iGor, you can blame Leket for this post! Charge Leket triple the subscription cost to make up for all of the subscription money you will lose from not getting any more people hooked onto your gambling money management system.)

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1) I have promissed to New Digital that I would not get in any fights no more here on this forum. So I gona stick with my reply just to some facts.

2) Your knowledge about what happend in the room is as good as zero because you were only there the 1st hour of each trading session and in the late evenings when trading sessions where already finshed. Never you were there a whole day or a compleet trading session.

3) As you say as last in your posting (blame this posting on Leket).
You ended up yesterday in a serious fight with Leket and your posting is only a revenge posting.

4) If you would have been in the room all day long and aspecially when I was tradingyou would have witnesses that I shared every day my trading platform to show the trades that I have FIRST called LIVE and to go over each trade with entry and with the exits the exact time of entry with how many contracts and even where I made mistakes.
One day I have been silent and was the day that I made my big loss. If I make a loss like that then people need to understand that I have more important things to do then explain on that very moment what I am doing.
I had saved my trades from that day and have explained every single detail and entry where I went wrong. I have explained every step of my MM where I went wrong.
The next day in the morning I have explained what the step is that I will take to come back from that loss and wich price and target I need to hit to recover from that loss and with how many contracts and shared my trading platform LIVE with the room and people wintessed that recoverd from my loss the very same day. All of this was wintessed by the members in the room. Who was not there ?...you. You came in when everything was settled and had to ask others what happend to me.

5) Our system gives way more then 50% hitrate that is clear to everyone who stayed every day and the whole day in the trading room.

6) I never made a drawdown of 40%. NEVER. My biggest drawdown was 26%. Wich I completely recovered from the very next day. Without any tricks! Again if you would have been in the room you would have witnessed that. So please stop posting lies or assumptions if you were not in the room on that moment.

7) The reason that I say that your posting is based on hate and revenge is that this is clear because you give proof of that by saying that I don't show my statements wich is sujesting that I am not honest in what I do but then you say that I made a big draw down. If I would be dishonest in what I do I would not say and show that I have a big loss. If I would be dishonest who would now about my draw down ?...
If you would be a bit sensible you would know that witnessing all trades on a trading platform true a LIVE video room gives 100% proof where if one realy wants he can play tricks with a statement.
And if someone would like to see a statement of each single trading day and asks me for it I will send it emmidiatly.

8) You make some sort of a calculation to insinuate that I would have added money to my account to come back from my drawdown. You insinuate again that I am dishonest. You do that with the help of calculations to make it even more reliable.
I sujest that you read the margin requirements of my broker instead and making assumptions to try to put me in a bad day light or try to make me apear as a scammer. Futures trading aan zeer lage commissies. Online discount tarieven. De goedkoopste broker. Platform en real-time tick per tick beurskoersen gratis.
The margin for a Bund is 1016$ wich is 635€.And you talk about my account in $ it is in €.

9) You said ONLY the day before yesterday that you managed to rebuild my whole system except on some details and a few indicators.
If you don't like my system why would you try to rebuild it?...

10) I can understand that you had a big fight with leket. And when I red over the posting made in the trading room I saw that Leket was not correct.
But let me now stick to some facts and also a couple of assumptions.

First the facts:
The day before yesterday (2nd last day of the month) You send me 2 (two) wispers (private massages) in the trading room to ask me for the mail of august to make the new subscription. I explained that I would send it to you the last day.....This is a very important elemenent because why would you send me a privat message only 2 days ago to ask for the subscription of the next month if you NOW "suddenly" feel so negative about everything.

The next day (yesteday) or last day of the month July you had a fight with Leket were at some point you guys make a stupid and childish bet for 1000$that you trade from a 100.000$ account and where Leket said that you don't even trade with real money.
You left the room with slamming doors. I came in later red over what was written and did not aprove what happend in the room. Nore from your side nore from Lekets side.
The last you said was that you would not come back to the room anymore. I was a bit suprised and I explained in the room that this is a bit strange because the day before you asked me in a wisper for the email for the subscription of next month. I took a copy of those privat messages and posted them in the room so the members could witness your request for the subscription of the next month.
OK these are facts.

Now lets get down to some assumptions:
You could have made the easiest 1000$ profit this month by showing the statements from your account to Leket because if it was correct that you trade from a 100.000$ he had to pay you 1000$ because all people in the room witnessed that bet.
After that bet you desiced not to come back to the room and after you asked me only the day before to re-new your subscription. I will not claim that you don't trade or do trade from a 100.000$. Because that is your privat problem where I don't have anything to do with. But I have a feeling that this fight you had got completely out of hand and that you can't come up with the proof so you can't earn that easy 1000$. In that case need to pay that 1000$.
For that reason you have to explain to yourself why you don't get back to the room and find an excuse and start to attack me and try to put me in a bad daylight or try to insinuate that I am not correct in what I do in the trading room.

The fight you had with Leket is more then 50% Lekets fault (if you would know that his father died the day before you would maybe understand his behaviour a bit more) but try to stay correct and stick to facts even if it is about me and don't start to post assumptions or things that you don't know about because you were not in the trading room. Or only have spend time in the room when each trading session was already finshed or at least when I stopped trading long before you came in every evening.
As said I am glad that you posted as last line that your posting is motivated by Leket. It show that you are angree and have hate feelings and that your posting is inspired by revenge.
Again your problem was with Leket and not with me. Enough people have wintessed that you said numerous times..iGoR you are a great guy ...I love to talk to you. So don't turn things now in such a way so you can excuse yourself not to respect some stupid bet you made with Leket.
You say in your posting that you want to have an other BET on me not beeing straight. If you want you have an other bet on for the same amount of money. Even for only 1$ or for a simple apology. If you want you can come in privat session to the live room and I gonna show everything you need and want to see about my draw down and the recovery. But if you see you are wrong then have at least the courtesey to come back here and say that you are wrong and apoligize and also to leket for the very vulgar and personal things you said to him and about his family (aspecially when his father only died the day before). I never ever on a forum or in a room saw someone make such a vulgar attack. It was the lowest of the lowest. Maybe for people here it is not clear wich kind of personality you are but after your attacks yesterday in the room it was for the members clear what kind of an education you received.
If you would not have apologized to him I would not have accepted a new membership from you.
Even you descided not come back to the room I hope some courstesey comes into your head and apoligize to him here in public.

It is sad it has to go that way. If I was in the room on that moment it would not have gotten out of hand. Our roads seperate here. You made your point and gave your vieuw on the facts with the help of some assumptions and even lies, I gave my vieuw on the facts with the help of some assumptions.

Take care...iGoR

PS. Wisdom of my father when I was +/- 10 years old: Never BET in your life it will only lead to friendships that will turn into fights. My old man was right...

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Jet, what you are thinking and doing is wrong.
Please be gentleman, and try to understand other people views.
What is true, is that you have used extraordinary vulgar words towards Leket and by the way to the whole room. I expect to read your apologies here, and the sooner the better , if of course you were a Man of Honnor. Igf not let it be so, meaning we have really nothing in common!
Now regarding Igor not sharing his platform, you should remember that very often during the day, Igor goes over his charts explaning or calling his trades, and at the end of his trading days, Igor simply shows his statement, commenting his trades on the charts.
So be serious and honnest.....
For the draw down, I think it was rather 22% or so but does not really matter.
What does matter is that for some reason you are still unmature and cannot face the truth about yourself. What is it, I would not know because I do not know you. But I can feel that something is wrong with you.
About Zorro Matrix, I can say that I trade it for few month now, and see the results on my real account, I see also how I can recover from my errors.
For Leket, I know what was wrong that day, but as it is his personal matter, I will not disclose what was it about. Only I can say that it happens to all of us, you included, if it did not happen to you yet, it will certainly happen. I wish only that that day you will be a Man, other way the hit will be much stronger.
Live and let live, please go your way and do not spread lies which find truth only in your mind.
MIKO

PS. do not answer, go your way, world is small

I joined the group last week and i can say without a doubt Igor is one of the most honest people there is.

Even when he had his big loss he went through every aspect of it and how he recovered. He didn't hide anything.

He calls his trades live and always shares his screen.

It's a nice group of people that are very helpfull. Don't be put off by one person's view.

R.

Hi

I just want to confirm what Igor say is true. He always show his platform after he have traded and he show and explain all details of the trading he have done. The reason he show the platform after the trading is done is because he show the MT4 chart live on the screen during trading so he can show and explain what he do on the same chart and system we all have, and i also think he have the platform on another computer so it is not even possible to show both at the same time with the way he have things set up as far as i know. But seconds after the last trade is done he use to log in on the other computer and he go over what we just have seen on the chart also on his platform.
Everything is shown. Number of contracts, markets, time of entry, exits and everything that is normally shown on a trading platform.
And he did that also after the day he had his big DD. He did not do the trading live on mic and screensharing like he normally do and that should not be difficult for people to understand. When he is in a DD with stress like that he need 100% concentration of course.
But he did show the acc live in the tradingroom the next day and explained every little detail of the trades he did and the DD he get that day.
If he have not been doing that nobody would not even know about it!
And the DD was like Igor say 26%. I don't remember the exact numbers anymore but it was 20+ something, less than 30% so i am sure 26% is correct.
And the DD was not because of the system or the MM. It was because he did some ugly mistakes. He explained and proved everything in detail the next day.
Igor do errors and some times stupid things like all of us of course but the difference from most of us is that he normally do it all live in front of a lot of people and/or is honest about it and even prove it.

Arctic4x

First of all, Leket offended not only me but all people in Bulgaria. When he FIRST made an even more vulgar statement all Bulgarians being dirty poor etc. Is this correct Igor? You should have the history. Post who made the statement first.

Second, Leket is trading for cents. His account is one thousand. He will never pay.

Third, as I said in my previous post, your MM is not 'your MM' it is The Labouchere System. Are there any differences iGor?

Forth, if the margin requirement for your broker is only around $1000, than my apologies, you would not have needed more margin, however, it is still only a matter of time before you blow up. You are using a semi-martingale system. There is no doubt about that.

Fifth, the template that people get from iGor to trade on is HORRIBLE. It has been written by some idiot that knows very little programming because even though there are only a few indicators used, my CPU goes crazy (and not just mine). That is why I used the already exiting on here: FXiGoR-(T_S_R) very effective Trend Slope Retracement system

Indeed one only needs to modify this a bit and you will have the EXACT entries that iGor's system gives. I have configured the template, and again if anyone wants it, PM me. It is nothing special.

Lastly, as I said in my previous post, I like the way you talk iGor, and while your teachings are useless for me and you say nothing that I don't already know, I like some of the people in the group (Leket, I love you too man, but don't hate like that! ). Specifically, I like Arctic4x. He is one of the few sane people in that room.

iGor what was the exact value of your maximum DD? 30K? How much? Post it here chief.

Lastly, I have received several PMs from people that were in the group or are still in the group thanking me for posting the previous post and saying that they also found a lot of fuzziness in the results and daily going over the charts and some cheating in the results. People have asked me not to disclose the PMs so I won't, but newdigial can confirm them...The reason they don't want the PMs disclosed is because they have friends in the group and don't want to offend anyone. newdigital can confirm the existence of the PMs in my mail box...

Anyway, point is, anyone who wants to trade iGor's system can trade it by using the links I have provided in my posts and save your money. I also have the videos and all other stuff Igor provides, so again, if anyone is interested, I'll give you them. Since they are absolutely useless, of course everything I give you is FREE. Igor doesn't have any copyrights, so it shouldn't be a problem and I paid for that crap so it is mine to do what I want with! PM me if you want things.

I don't use Igor's system because it is not any better than any other system with a few indicators on it.

Igor was saying that all accusations he has on the thread were from people that never subscribed to his group, well there, now there are SEVERAL subscribers who think iGor is not completely honest and cheats about results every once in a while. (He draws lines and approximates if a trade was good or not by the length of the line!)

Well, I don't have time to fight or read iGor's huge textbook posts, so this is the last post I am planning on posting here. Again, if you want further information, PM me and if I have time I'll reply.

The posts and answers should not be about me or my trading or my character or whatever, because I am not trying to sell anything. I was the one a "useless, semi-martingale service" was sold to, remember?

Good luck.

(Notice how even the members in the room are not exactly sure what the extent of Igor's draw down last week was. Goes to show you how accurate things are done.)

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Guys please,

what happens on trading room must stay on trading room. No sense to discuss here what almost most members does not know.

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I Don't know if it is mentioned anywhere here in this thread, but Igors indicators will work only for the subscription time...
I was a member of the group for july, since i am quite new to forex it was valuable experience. I can't judge about the quality of his system because of my little experience in forex trading but one thing is worth the money, its is Igors devotion to the group. He is willing to share his knowledge and experience to everyone.

HI HI...thats a good one....iGoR stuff is rubbish and I'm going to give you something better.............what ?......an OLD system of iGoR.....

I don't know if I need to feel flattered or or that you try to take other people for fools. I am sure thankfull to you to send the video's with that OLD (new) system of me so people can compare.

Your only intention is trying to destroy by what ever kind of lie you can come up with.

But one thing I know for shure...if people send a PM to you to jump on your wagon that in that very same PM they are going to ask you if you could send them the system that you TRYED to re-build....
And who system is that ?.... Mine so how bad or stupid is iGoR.
What your TRYED to re-build can never compeet to the MaTRiX_ZoRRo system. Because it does not have the ZoRRoMA witch is the compleet motor of my trading system and witch you also said the day before yesterday in the trading room..."I TRYED to re-build your system but I don't have that indicator".
Maybe that is why your system it is so low on CPU

....iGoR

PS. About Arctic4X...you say that he is sensible. You think of him as a fool. Because if he would be sensible he would not be sitting in my room for 2 years now if I would cheat and many other that joined the commercial room over the last 10 months.
PS2. If I ask a monthly subscription it because people will get something that realy makes the difference and not for something that they can find freely on this forum or on the internet.

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