Zorro_Trading_Group by FXiGoR - Page 123

Kenny Rogers · #**1221** (**permalink**) 03-30-2009, 07:11 AM

^ Igor,

You should trade and be a RAS signal seller. Let a fella like me get some table scraps. LOL.

Good trading to you.

fxmaximumz · #**1222** (**permalink**) 04-03-2009, 08:48 AM

hi a honest question,
has anyone in igor's group actually already made money?
also what system is being traded now? the thread is so inconsistent

forexak · #**1223** (**permalink**) 04-04-2009, 12:50 PM

My result for March on my real account, trading WoW and Break out system on EUR. Thanks to Igors system and Moneymanagments.

dannywang · #**1224** (**permalink**) 04-06-2009, 05:21 PM

hi igor i have sent an email from dannywang25@hotmail.com for joining the sydicate for april but have not got a reply.
are you still accepting members?
willing to learn to trade soon
thanks=)

iGoR · #**1225** (**permalink**) 04-08-2009, 07:58 AM

Fellow Traders

There are a few things that I feel that I would like to clarify. There are still some people joining the room and who are wanting to join the room and I feel that it is important for me to make sure that some things are very clear to everyone. I really don’t want people to arrive in the room with the wrong expectations the moment they enter in the trading room. What I want to make clear is that although my system is available for new members to use from the moment that they subscribe to the room ….together with videos explaining the system and the amazing money management method with the special spreadsheet that I have developed………I have to make sure that it is clear to you all that I am no longer available to teach ‘hands on’ during the trading day. I am, however, available to answer any questions after 6pm (CET) each evening.
The reason for this is because I am now trading alongside the members of the trading room and I am very much a fellow member of my trading team and trading the system as part of our new Group Syndicate Project where we all trade a different pair (to allow for diversification) using the same system in the same group trading account.

Let me tell you how this came about …..I have been teaching in the room for 3 years now (public and private room combined).
I wanted that people could make money from trading. Nothing more or nothing less then trading for a living.
I gave them a system to follow but to my disappointment at the end of every month when I asked people whether they had made money or not I kept finding that many said to me NO! I could not understand this as it was clear that time after time after time each system that I introduced, the system was making money. I did not cheat on the spreadsheets and did not leave some losing trades out of the spreadsheet nor did I add any winning trades to the spreadsheets. Each week I filled in the spreadsheets 100% according to the rules I had explained and the system was making money!

So what was the reason that the systems that I introduced made money but the overall majority of the members LOST money?
Only one word: DISCIPLINE………. And I am certain that any of the traders would agree with that. If you read back over the whole topic one will find very very few complaints about the system.

The word DISCIPLINE comes back in every trading book that one reads however it is by the overall majority of people ignored and disrespected by many of the people who are just focussed on making money OUT of you instead of teaching you how to make money FOR yourself.

The overall majority of the vendors who try to get money OUT of you by teaching you how to trade try to make you believe that you can trade whenever you want from wherever you want and on whatever pair that you want.
Because so many of these unscrupulous vendors are claiming this so many people get brainwashed by this and start to believe that this is really possible.
I am now more then 13 years around in the trading world and let me tell you in all honesty that there is NO SUCH THING.
Just use your own common sense and a little bit of logic!!
After all if it really was possible then I would not have been sitting all of these years in front of my screen for at least 10hours per day. Over the years I have analysed over 100's of systems and setups and combination of rules. There is no such thing as being able to trade a couple of hours in the morning or in the afternoon or later evening when your normal job is finished and make a “fist full of dollars".
If it would be possible I would do it and take the rest of the day off and hit some balls on the golf course.
Trading is more then a full time job. If you use your common sense you will realise that there is no job out there that requires 8-10 hours work but that you can do it in a couple of hours.
Just imagine if you pick out 2 hours tomorrow morning that was in the middle of a consolidation period, then let’s say that you decide to trade 2 hours the next day but in the afternoon. What if the morning had showed some nice trending price action but now during the afternoon it is now consolidating....etc....etc...So this would mean that you do not give yourself the chance to fight back from the losses you made and you stumble from drawdown into drawdown. And what looked like a very solid and profitable trading strategy suddenly becomes an overall losing strategy ……TO YOU.

This seemed to be the MAJOR problem with 99% of the people that became a member of my room. They walked in the room when it suited them. They traded when they felt like doing so. They did not treat trading as a serious business venture.
Seeing the spreadsheets that showed very nice profits they seemed to think that if a system is making 1000pips in a month that they would be able to spend 10% of the time on trading and still would make 10% of the money.
Unfortunately folks it just doesn't work that way! No job in the world works that way.
If a job that requires a lot of dedication, responsibility and discipline and you give it only 10% you are not going to have 10% of the normal results you are only going to do a lot of harm and fail completely.

To come back to the trading room:
After 3 years of frustrations and desperately wanting to help people to succeed with their trading and after watching the behaviour and especially the results of the majority of the members I feel very strongly that making the big decision to trade alongside all the members of my room is the most beneficial and logical step to take.

Because of this decision one needs to understand that I cannot possibly be on hand to teach all day long like I was before. I believe that you will all have an understanding of what it means to need to be focussed and that it may well have happened to all of you that 1 single telephone call from someone to you or someone ringing at the door can cost you quite some money if you allow yourself to be distracted.
So I can only either trade or teach during the day. Doing both 100% correctly at the same time is impossible.
As I have told you I have decided to concentrate on trading with a group of good traders (dedicated, disciplined and 100% committed) to really make money out of trading.

People who are interested in joining the room are still very welcome. The indicators, template, spreadsheet and teaching videos are available with your subscription and I am available to answer any questions after 6pm (CET) but you must be aware that you will be responsible for your own trading during the day and I encourage you to devote as much time as you possibly can to be successful in that. PLEASE start off with a demo account !!

My main goal from now on is making money with the Syndicate and we are still looking for dedicated traders to join us. If you are interested then you will be asked to do a 2 week trial period after you learned the system. We are looking for people who have experience in trading , not complete beginners. After the trial period and you have indeed proved that you are capable and willing to be dedicated and disciplined in your trading. Not missing 1 trade during the whole day ( a trading day starts at 07.00gmt and finishes at 17.00gmt) then you will be invited to join us in becoming a member of the Syndicate.
People who don’t want to join the Syndicate but still want to join the trading room are still welcome but they need to understand that if they make money or not, that this is no longer my main concern.
They are on their own and fully responsible for their own discipline and profits and losses who go 100% together with the amount of discipline and time they want to spend on trading.
Again spending 50% of the necessary time is not going to lead to 50% of the profits but is going to lead to overall losses at the end of the month.
If you work for a boss or a company and spend only 50% of the required time on your job, your boss or company is not going to be half pleased. On the contrary, the chance is big that they are going to fire you.
See trading as a full time JOB and it is going to make you money. If you approach it as some sort of a hobby then it is going to cost you money as every other hobby does.

Friendly regards …….iGoR

PS. The membership fee for the people who don't join the syndicate stays the same at 89€.

*text edited by Kimmy. tnxs kimmy.

iGoR · #**1226** (**permalink**) 04-10-2009, 02:58 PM

Results for this week:

This is the result of 4 days trading. We do not trade today (friday) because of bank holiday.

This week we made 8.53% profit.
In this result there is a recovery missing on the eur/jpy of +/- 500$ (my internet connection broke down on thursday).
This recovery will only be visual in the result the week from the 20th april.
I am trading the eur/jpy and will be on holiday next week. I will start to trade again the week of the 20th of april.
So the total result should be for this week 11300$ or +/-13%.
But nevertheless 8.53% is still a solid result for 4 days trading.

Special thanks to arctic and forexak for their discipline and some very nice exist on some of the trades they took.

friendly regards...iGoR

iGoR · #**1227** (**permalink**) 04-10-2009, 04:40 PM

The circle is round.

After 3 years develloping severall systems we are back to where we started.
In the trading room and with the syndicate we are trading the (T_S_R) trading system again.

It is modified and improved but the principal stays the same.
When we stopped trading T_S_R we did not have the MM that we have now and we stopped also in a very bad period april-jun 2007 where the market conditions were very bad. Looking back to that period there was no way to make any intraday trading system work.

The (T_S_R) system has proved to be a very simple but very effective trading system because if you do a google on (T_S_R) you gonna see a couple of 1000 hits and you will find many different countrys that had forums who were trading and discussed my system.

As said I have improved it even more and in combination with our MM it gives great results.

But I am still looking for traders who could join our syndicate ( trading from one central real account).
The search is more difficult then I tought it would be. For that reason I'm going to try to find those people in a different way.
Somewhere in the 4th week of april I am going to have the privat room open as a public room again.
This way I hope that somebody can feel the atmosphere in the room and can follow whats going on and maybe this way this person would like to join the syndicate.
But there will be restrictions otherwise there is no difference in becomming a member of the trading room and follow everything in public without the nescessarity to becomme a member.
The room will be back in the daytraders section of the business and finance section on paltalk.
People who are not a member and who will enter in the room will have a red dot in front of their name. This makes it impossible to write any text in the room. This is for obvious reasons because not everybody is as friendly and has correct intentions in what they would write.
But a person that joins the room will be cappable of following everything that is going on in the room.

I am going to pick up again the (T_S_R) topic in the public section.
I am going to give also the indicators and themplates with audio files so one can see for himself how effective this trading system is.
If you place the template on whatever kind of pair or whatever kind of time frame it should be clear how this very simple but very effective strategy should help you in making money.
But as said we use this system combined with our MM to make it even more effective but the MM stays in the privat room.

I hope this will help you in your trading and I hope that somebody could becomes that good that he or she wants to join the syndicate of the privat trading group.
For those who would not be informed, the syndicate is a group of people in the privat room who trade with real money from 1 central joined account.
The benefit from this is the discipline and the diversification of trading different pairs where one can not trade severall pairs on his own.

Do not ask for any EA's to be made because the exits are pure discretionary.
If somebody feels that it can then not be called a system but a method that fine for me.
This system helps you to become a REAL trader and not some sort of executer of a signal because a bunch of indicators line up in some sort of a direction and close you trade because an indicator tells you to do so.

I wish you prospers trading and hope to see you in the trading room.

Furder details will be anounced where and when the room will be opend for the public. The same for the indicators and templates and the entry rules.

The results of the past week posted in the previous posting where only achieved by the (T_S_R) system.

Friendly regards....iGoR

fxprocessor · #**1228** (**permalink**) 04-12-2009, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Price moves in a 100% random way so build yourself a system that is not affected by trend or consolidation...(iGoR)

Hi Igor

Is your Trend slope retracement system not affected by trend or consolidation?

Best Regards

FXP

iGoR · #**1229** (**permalink**) 05-03-2009, 03:28 PM

Fellow traders,

What to expect the next month of MAY?....

All the developments that I have made in the past was concentrated on people who can trade all day long and that every day.
For those people we have the BreakOut system or the T_S_R system in combination with our SuPeR_MM ( Image 1 and 2 ).
Some members in the room (like forexak and kimmy) have shown over the past months amazing profits with this combination. Forexak gave even proof that he can fully live from his trading.
The rules for this system are easy to learn, very simple and straight for worth. The most complicated element is the money management. But that is taken care off in a spreadsheet that calculates the MM automaticly for you. The SuPeR_MM spreadsheet tells you how many contracts you need to take in, so that you do not need to do any calculations.
This system works with limit orders. This way one is not exposed to any slippage and one has plenty of time to place the orders. This gives a comfortable feeling all day long and human errors are reduced to a minimum. This system in combination with the SuPeR_MM is also developed to give nearly every day profit. So that one feels rewarded for the time spend in front of his pc.

For people who would like to trade more from the higher time frames because they don’t want to take in a lot of trades all day long but are still available all day to take in a trade at the end of a 1 or 4 hour bar there is the COMPASS system ( Image 3 and 4)
This system is very accurate in tracking down the market reverse point but still filters out in a very reliable way the false signals.
Also this system in combination with the SuPeR_MM is a highly profitable system.
For those who want to trade on lower time frames by trading according the trend on higher time frames is the COMPASS system a very reliable setup to show you the trend on those higher time frames.

For the group of people who can only trade a couple of hours per day (witch is actually the biggest group of people) there is a very reliable setup I developed.
But honesty obeys me to first explain something so there would be no misunderstanding on this part of trading.
Nearly every trader dreams of the scenario, sitting only a couple of hours in front of their pc (could be in the morning an other day in the afternoon or later evening) to make some money and close the books. But many amateurs don’t understand that for all the same the 2 hours that one would spend in front of their pc there is just no trend.
If one looks over a time curve one will notice that 70-80% of the time price is consolidating. If one want to make money on something that does not produce big moves over 70-80% of the time then one needs to accept that the way he needs to trade is on very small moves or one could call it scalping. It is a total waste of time to sit only 2 hours in front of a pc and try to catch a 50-100pip move.
For this type of trading there is the same setup as we use for the BreakOut system but were one will take in arrows according the trend (image 5). This setup is 100% mechanical and produces a very high hitrate of 66% (or 2 out of 3 trades are succesfull) This hitrate is achieved on every possible pair.
But one needs to realize that this type of trading is of course a quit stress full way of trading because speed in executing the orders is an absolute must.
Most scalping techniques are based on taking only a few pips profit but have big stops. Our system works with small stops.
The image bellows show the trades according this setup on last Friday. There were in total 11 winning trades ( green vertical lines) and 3 losing trades (red vertical lines).
The hitrate Friday was bigger then 66% but as said normally one needs to count on 66% and that for every pair. The pairs with the lowest spread are of course the best to trade. With most brokers that will be the eur/usd but if one has a micro account with FXCM then most pairs are under 2 pips spread. The eur/jpy as low as 1.2pips.
This system again in combination with the SuPeR_MM is a highly profitable way of trading. I gave proof of trading this system at 02.00gmt (that is in the middle of the asian session) and made the same profits as one would trade in the UK or US session.

I also decided to share my SuPeR_MM with those would be interested in the MM but trade it with their personal systems.
Zorro_Trading_Group by FXiGoR
On this page I gave proof of how powerful the SuPeR_MM really is. The MM turned results from systems that one would absolutely not trade into nice profitable systems.

So every type of trader will be helped from now on. But I know already from experience that some newbie’s will ask me what system they need to trade or a very common question will be: what is the most profitable system to trade.
That is a question that I can not answer for you because you need to know what type of trader you are. It is of no use to try to trade or scalp if one can not handle stress or work in a very fast way as it is of no use to try to catch big moves if on can only sit 2-3 hours per day in front of your pc. Both will result in losing money on the long term. It is also not recommended to jump continuously from one method to the other.

I will help each one of you in your trading and in your money management so you could trade for a living according the style that suits you the best and end with profit at the end of each month. Other members in the room will have no problem what so ever to show their results in the trading room from their real accounts.
But be aware that if you would not be profitable at the end of the month then ask yourself the question if the problem is with the system and the MM or with your own discipline.
A proven profitable system with a SuPeR_MM is still no guarantee to make from every person a profitable trader.

The membership fee stays at 89€. For this fee you have access to the paltalk room and to the live video room. You receive all indicators and templates. You receive the spreadsheet that contains the SuPeR_MM that is helping you in an automated way in your MM and that you can even use for your personal trading systems even if you decide to no longer use our systems.
You will receive all information needed on all systems and I am every day in the room to help you. I answer all your questions between my personal trading or every Monday Tuesday Thursday between 16.00gmt and 19.00gmt if longer explaining is needed.

To join the trading group send mail to: zorro_trading_group@hotmail.com

Friendly regards and see you in the trading room….iGoR

iGoR · #**1230** (**permalink**) 05-03-2009, 03:29 PM

Image number 5