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Old 12-16-2008, 04:06 PM
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How do we get in the room?

Hello,

I don't know if this was posted before in the thread, but if it was i do not see any reference to the specific post. So I'm left with 2 options...either read the entire thread or ask here...of course I opt for the quickest one...ask

So, how do we get into that trading room?
I suppose we have to pay...but how can we pay?
Using paypal? or other method?
How do you know which nickname corresponds to each payment?
(maybe there's a simple answer to that but since I've never used something like this, so i don't know)
Do we have to the same payment process every month?

Last but not least...what software/chat/platform is used to get into the room?

Thanks

PS: Maybe I'm going to get an answer like...just send an email to zorro_trading_group@hotmail.com ?

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Old 12-16-2008, 04:43 PM
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Hello,

I don't know if this was posted before in the thread, but if it was i do not see any reference to the specific post. So I'm left with 2 options...either read the entire thread or ask here...of course I opt for the quickest one...ask

So, how do we get into that trading room?
I suppose we have to pay...but how can we pay?
Using paypal? or other method?
How do you know which nickname corresponds to each payment?
(maybe there's a simple answer to that but since I've never used something like this, so i don't know)
Do we have to the same payment process every month?

Last but not least...what software/chat/platform is used to get into the room?

Thanks

PS: Maybe I'm going to get an answer like...just send an email to zorro_trading_group@hotmail.com ?
Indeed I would say send an mail to zorro_trading_group@hotmail.com

I send you then a mail at the end of the month with the recap over the last month and the instructions how to pay.

Aditional info that I can give you here is that the monthly subscription is 89€ only true paypal. After receiving the payment you receive a mail with instructions how to join our room on paltalk.com. You receive in that mail also the indicators and templates and instructions how to join the video room.
The video is very simple because you do not have to install any software.

Friendly regards...iGoR
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Result Tuesday 16/dec:

A smooth relaxed day again +122pips profit spread included.

The system is in a small MM recovery and starts tomorrow with 3 contracts.

All trades were witnesses LIVE by the members in the video room.

To be continued...iGoR


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Old 12-16-2008, 09:36 PM
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Liliput vs. iGoriver-the battle of the extraterrestrial

Liliput vs. iGoriver-the battle of the extraterrestrials
Iggie,
You need to do a head to head comparison to this year's ATC leader like you did last year. I am sure you can crush him
Participants - Automated Trading Championship 2008
Българи юнаци!!!

Sorry could not help it. This is tooooo funny
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:33 PM
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Mpower,

I follow that championship nearly every day and together with the members in the video room.

The only conclusion we can make is that this competion is some sort of a crap shoot.

It is easy to look to the total results (as most people do who don't know any better) but once you start to look into the technical details they could have been whiped out after the first 2 trades. If you look to liliputs results and check out his 10th and 11th trade and if those 2 trades would have occured as the first 2trades he would have been in the bottom 10 ranking.
As I am absolutly convinsed that if some of those people who were in the bottom 10 ranking after a couple days, would have had a bit more luck the moment they started, could have been now in the top 10 ranking.
If ONLY 2 bad trades occure the moment you start trading and would whipe you out completely, one can hardly have any admiration for such a system.

If you look to the absolute draw downs of all EA's in the top 10 ranking there is not 1 that has a less then 40% drawdown.
People screamed already murder and hell here in my topic if they could have gone to a 30% drawdown.

If you look to the technical report of this one Participant simplexnet - Automated Trading Championship 2008 you will say WOOOW. The hitrate is more then amazing. The avg win/los ratio is extreme. Because MT4 shows only results on end of trade and also the equity curve is build that way. But if you look to his Maximum DD it was at some point -81%. Witch can not be seen on his equity curve because of floating losses that are not registered.

So it is nice to have a look to all of these results and if you know how to read a technical report it learns you a great deal and that is that there are no secrets in trading.
That competion will always be a Do or Die situation because ending up 4th on the ranking gives you nothing in return for your effort.
One has the possiblity to program his EA in such a way that if he is extreme lucky he can make in the top 3 and receive some price money but in real if he was just a little bit unfortunate he would have blown up his account 14 times.
The other possibility is to program your EA in such a way that you would be very safe in real trading but in that competion, you want make it into the top 100 ranking that way.

Interesting also to see is that the top 3 devellopers of the previous years joined the competion again the years after and they are no way near the top 10 the next years ( and they had more then a year to even improve their systems).
So if Liliput can make it into the top 10 next year I will build up some credit for him. He has now 22 trades and I consider that as pure luck. I look at this that his system has found a sweat spot in the current market conditions. As "better" had last year and is now even in a small loss after making 1300% profit last year.

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Old 12-17-2008, 08:11 AM
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Igor,
This is true. It is a go or blow depending on luck to a great extent. The end goal is maximum profit. That is why developers design the ea's with that in mind and they pray for favorable market conditions. I have to say though, that many viable trading systems are presented and tested every year. Perhaps the format of the competition is not representative of real trading and the risks associated with it. You have made a very nice summary. But it is a topic of another discussion. I will not be spamming your thread. The above was just a little joke that i thought was funny:-)
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Result Wednesday 17/dec:

A more then beautiful day again +197 pips profit spread included and never went over more then 3 contracts.

The system did not need the big move today to make its profit because all profit was made before the move started and no more trades or after the move.
No MM recovery plan tomorrow to start with.

All trades were witnesses LIVE by the members in the video room.

To be continued...iGoR


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Result on daily base for the 20-contract-filter:

The 20-contract-filter system broke today the 9000pips barrier is now at +9120pips profit (spread included) and with a hitrate of 75.%.


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Result Thursday 18/dec:

AGAIN a beautiful result today +197 pips profit spread included and never went over more then 4 contracts.

No MM recovery plan tomorrow to start with.

All trades were witnessed LIVE by the members in the video room.

To be continued...iGoR


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