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Old 11-07-2007, 06:48 AM
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Well, I think everyone here would rather trade than code for a living so coding EAs is a transition from coding to trading I think...
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:05 AM
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I contacted optimu with a request for a simple mod for a common EA.
It took him over a week to respond, but agreed to do the work.
He quoted a flat fee and agreed to start immediately.

I sent him the EA.

Weeks passed, he did not respond to emails and I never heard from him again.

I can quote similar stories from a number of coders who advertise their services here. I have to wonder why they bother.
Hi

You have to try and understand how these part time coders survive.

These jobs on the forum are pocket money jobs.They look for bigger jobs freelancing and in other areas.When they get the bigger jobs they ditch the smaller forum jobs like EAS and indicators.

If you give them bigger complicated jobs ,like mine ,you have to wait months and sometimes they are not done the way the buyer requires them to perform

I had the same problem with Optimu ,where he took on a job and never even started it.So I never worked with him

Try Michal MQL .

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Old 11-07-2007, 07:52 AM
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I contacted optimu with a request for a simple mod for a common EA.
It took him over a week to respond, but agreed to do the work.
He quoted a flat fee and agreed to start immediately.

I sent him the EA.

Weeks passed, he did not respond to emails and I never heard from him again.

I can quote similar stories from a number of coders who advertise their services here. I have to wonder why they bother.
My standards are to reply within 24 hours. Typical coding turnaround is 7 days. The main issue to be able to keep such high standards is to not take under quoted jobs. My hourly fee is 50 Euros and I frequently must refuse clients who want me to code at rate lower than I pay my gardener. All this is done to be honest with my full rate clients. For some of them I have even a rapid service with 50% price add on and they prefer to pay higher rate. With good clients I have on average 5-10 jobs and cooperation continue.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:56 AM
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Is there enough demand for someone to make a living coding?
The software industry is the biggest on the world. Not surprisingly, the most wealthy man on Earth owns a software company.
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Old 11-07-2007, 10:28 AM
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Programming for a living

Hello,

I'm a professional programmer with an active interest in trading.
I would like to let you know what goes through my head when I take on a new programming job.

Communication between myself and the client is crucial to a successful software project.
If I can't communicate well with the client, then I will not take on the job.

If the client can effectively communicate to me the project requirements, then I can correctly
estimate the time and cost of the work to be done.

If agreement can be reached on the project requirements, time and price then I know
the project has a chance of succeeding.

For me personally, anything under $75/hour I will not touch.
There are a three main reasons for this:
1/ I need to make a minimum amount each week in order to pay the bills.
2/ I know I can make that money or better elsewhere.
3/ It is WORK when I'm doing it for someone else.

The biggest risk for me is time. The main time considerations are:
1/ If I don't estimate enough I will not get paid for all of the work.
2/ I might have to rush work if I'm falling behind.
3/ The longer the project, the bigger the risk of 1/ & 2/ occurring.

To manage the time risk, I will estimate the project by breaking it down into
smaller components and analyzing how long each component will take to
program. Once that is done, I will add a buffer so I won't have to rush and
make mistakes that could jeopardize the quality of the work.

The biggest thing that a client can do to help me is to have clear set of
requirements. The more detail a client puts into this process, the better
the outcome will be.
This also allows me to get paid for any extra additions that were not a part
of the original requirements.

I hope this has helped to show you what it is like to be a programmer.

You can have a look at some of my work at Forex Gear - Basket Tester

Have fun,

Coder
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A VERY well written post and definitely gets my vote for post of the month.

Well done!

Lux

PS: I'm speaking as someone that has been making a living as a programmer for over 10 years.
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A VERY well written post and definitely gets my vote for post of the month.

Well done!

Lux

PS: I'm speaking as someone that has been making a living as a programmer for over 10 years.
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My point is that if a coder cannot take or does not want the job, he should make that clear.
If he has other work and your job is in queue, that should be made clear, too.

To agree to take a job and not follow through at all is, if nothing else, rude.

The point, as some have taken, is communication and simple courtesy.
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My point is that if a coder cannot take or does not want the job, he should make that clear.
If he has other work and your job is in queue, that should be made clear, too.

To agree to take a job and not follow through at all is, if nothing else, rude.

The point, as some have taken, is communication and simple courtesy.
I agree 100%. A coder doing this will never be able to live from coding.
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The software industry is the biggest on the world. Not surprisingly, the most wealthy man on Earth owns a software company.
Yes and I think wed all agree unanimously he is also the biggest scammer on the planet

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My point is that if a coder cannot take or does not want the job, he should make that clear.
If he has other work and your job is in queue, that should be made clear, too.

To agree to take a job and not follow through at all is, if nothing else, rude.

The point, as some have taken, is communication and simple courtesy.
True and also should be upfront before he accepts money on whether or not he can actually make an EA do exactly what your asking or not.
Not just think he can then try then 2-3 months down the track you still emailing asking why it doesn't do what you asked.
Doesn't mean he is a bad coder just means maybe somethings people ask could be the impossible.
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