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I'm sorry. As much as I enjoy this thread (it has been a good read for about 6 months) I have to call BS on anyone claiming that risk is impossible.
Yes, you can preserve capital by using smaller lot sizes (position sizes) after each loss. But a loss is a loss. Holding on to losers can wipe you out, while cutting losses early still nickle and dimes you.
I want to say that I thoroughly enjoy Bill's intellectual descriptions of what he does. The metaphores and analogies are refreshing, and do a nice job of conveying concepts.
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Originally Posted by Muddyguy
The upside could be very, very good, the downside is eliminated
I'm sorry. As much as I enjoy this thread (it has been a good read for about 6 months) I have to call BS on anyone claiming that risk is impossible.
Yes, you can preserve capital by using smaller lot sizes (position sizes) after each loss. But a loss is a loss. Holding on to losers can wipe you out, while cutting losses early still nickle and dimes you.
I want to say that I thoroughly enjoy Bill's intellectual descriptions of what he does. The metaphores and analogies are refreshing, and do a nice job of conveying concepts.
Hi tdion,
You are correct that there is always risk of loss if we are talking about just Forex alone. I'm sorry, I didn't explain myself fully. No matter what is done with trading alone, risk remains. I absolutely agree with you. I spend a lot of my time finding the weaknesses in different trading systems. (If I can't find them, I test the strategy with real money. Usually the weakness will then show up really quick... )
But, the capital preservation structure I have set up will use a combination of several elements including Federal tax credits, a wind farm energy facility, government bonds, and two Forex trading teams with completely different approaches.
With this structure both Forex teams could actually lose their entire trading accounts and the company will still maintain capital preservation for the investors. Actually, there should be at least a gain of almost 20% in two years even with a complete loss of the trading accounts the way I have structured the company. It will be launched and begin looking for funding starting this weekend.
You lost me at wind farm energy company. What the hell are you talking about?
Hi,
Got lost at the wind farm???? ok, I'll run through it.
As tdion pointed out, there is no way to eliminate the risk of trading. I hate that. I've probably analyzed a hundred systems in the past two years to identify their risks, and see how I could mitigate those risks. The best i have come up with is my latest robot, and it still has some risk.
So, if I can't contain the trading risk in a box by itself, I decided to get a bigger box. I put together a conservative hybrid financial structure that may provide potentially high returns with very low risk by combining several forms of asset protection with three distinct potential profit centers.
In simple terms, what that means is investor capital is protected by a combination of low risk financial instruments, discounted real estate, aggregate mineral assets, and IRS tax credits. In fact, it is overprotected by an extra 15-20%-ish.
The profit potential is from a combination of two very experienced Forex trading teams which only work with larger accounts, and a wind farm company which will seek permitting for a new site. If that permitting process is completed (and it should be, especially with oil over $100 a barrel), the returns will be huge, both in significant asset appreciation and ongoing green energy income.
Actually, if either one of the Forex teams or the wind farm does well, the returns will be excellent. If we do well with all three profit centers, that could be very, very, very nice. The time frame is two years.
All this is not easy or cheap. It has been a lot of work for months, and now all I need to do is raise $12M with investors to get everything started.
Hey Muddyguy =) I am brand-spanking new to this forum as well as to FOREX in general but in the past couple of days I spent all my free time reading through this extremely educational thread. I really enjoyed your examples and analogies and it is evident that you spent a lot of time and energy helping people in this thread. Anyways, thanks ^^
And now, where exactly did those results in your last post originate from? Is Calice the proprietary system that you developed for your new financial vehicle?
How is baby Hammer? Is she walking alone on her own two feet yet?
And finally how is Bill Young performing? I perused the GoFXPro website but the information is vague and it appears that the majority of the supporters here lost interest a while ago. I have nowhere near the starting capital necessary to even open account with him, even if I were so inclined, but it would be happy news to learn if he turned back into profits as I expect he will. I am a big fan of good money management
Thanks again for all your time and support and I am confident that your correlation and checkgrid EA's will be great training grounds for me when I decide to start blowing up demos ^^
And now, where exactly did those results in your last post originate from? Is Calice the proprietary system that you developed for your new financial vehicle?
How is baby Hammer? Is she walking alone on her own two feet yet?
And finally how is Bill Young performing?
Thanks again for all your time and support and I am confident that your correlation and checkgrid EA's will be great training grounds for me when I decide to start blowing up demos ^^
Hi there,
Those results are from Calice. Yes, it is proprietary. I'm not really comfortable with the small account risk exposure yet. I pushed it very hard for those results. But, on a $1M+ account, I could safely grind out 20%/month as I would be able to reduce the exposure ratio. Now I just need a spare $1M... Hmmm... Perhaps I should check between the cushions on my couch...
Hammer - at least the bits I liked - were rolled into Calice.
Please check with Bill Young directly regarding his current performance.
Blowing up demos is the best learning tool. You get to learn what doesn't work before going live. Playing it "safe" is bad. The real world will crush your account if you do that. But, it looks like you have already figured that out, so you are on the right track!