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Old 09-02-2007, 05:41 PM
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Hint:

use the tool Bill B. has provided and run many pair sets in the demo with the correct ratio's...when one of them signals a divergence that you believe has a high probability to return...get in on that wave for a few hours and take a "tamed risk-free ride"...His tool has automated the exit and you can now sleep

The reason why this method is quietly resting here in Forextsd...is that it teaches you to trade and it is not a get rich entry or exit scheme...it requires YOU (or Bill Young).

Pay the hundred bucks a month to Bill B if you want to trade this yourself on automatic ...or give some incentive fee to Bill Y...it was a no brainer for me...I still have much time on my hands to write and trade where managment is not available and thus I can continue to diversify and grow...It's all about time...just ask Bill Gates...

Every breath you take is a loser, in this life...got Milk?
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If it is pure correlation divergence, the "best" pairs are the ones giving a clear divergence signal. Those obviously need to be traded with the correlated trend and usually for only a few hours at most.

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Old 09-02-2007, 06:39 PM
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Why I like correlation trades

Often I read posts by those who claim that it makes no sense to trade a correlated pair as it is simply a "synthetic cross", so why not simply trade that cross? This is a good question and a good strategy (sometimes).

There are great reasons to simply trade the cross directionally. IF both major pairs give a good, strong trend signal in the appropriate directions, trading the cross is very profitable as it can produce far more pips. For example, at recent market prices for the GBPUSD/USDJPY a 100 pip move in each in the same direction would be a 319 pip move in the GBPJPY cross. If I wanted 50 pips, I would rather take it out of a 319 pip move where there is a lot of extra room. I explain the math in post 319 http://www.forex-tsd.com/138503-post315.html. This can be a very good trade and Bill Young at GoFXPro uses it for his clients using some of my indicators.

The risk is that the cross is prone to extreme whipsaws. In that example, if the majors each retraced 25 pips, the cross would retrace 75 pips at the same time. Be prepared to use larger stops, or expect sudden losses, even when the correct overall direction was known.

Trading the correlated pair for divergence has its own strengths. Let me tell you about a bad trade I made last month in my real money accounts. I've been avoiding the JPY pairs knowing the fall was coming, so I've traded the GBPUSD/EURUSD in opposite directions for quick profits every day or two. On August 6th at 6AM London time I had a signal for a nice little divergence long GBPUSD/short EURUSD. I placed the trade and went to bed leaving my C4 robot to handle the exit.

Two hours later the news broke about hoof and mouth disease in England among the cows. Wham! Suddenly the GBPUSD side of my trade was down 100+ pips in a negative deconvergence. Over the next couple days it was down almost 300 pips. Stupid cows...

If I was in a directional trade for the GBPUSD I would have taken a loss at some point in the last three weeks as the GBPUSD fell 700-ish pips from my entry at 2.0436. But, as I was in a correlated trade, my largest drawdown was around 300 pips, which I would consider way too much in a directional trade but not in this kind of correlated trade. Bill Young would laugh at me and would have been out of the trade and into something better while I am still sitting around bonding with the stupid cows...

I don't need the GBPUSD to get back above 2.0436 to profit. This is the huge benefit of correlated trades. I just need it to get back up above its relative entry point with the EURUSD even if it NEVER gets back above my entry price. So, I have been sitting in this trade for three weeks earning interest and waiting for the pairs to reconverge and averaging in a bit to help that along. Stupid cows...

The pairs have come back very close to each other and I only have a 50 pip gap at this time. That should close in the next couple weeks, perhaps on NFP Friday.

So, even though I was hammered by unexpected news about stupid British cows (anyone getting the impression that I'm holding a grudge against the cows?) I didn't need to take a loss. It will be a profit - though a slower one because I was able to stay in the trade, and the drawdown was much less due to the correlated pair dampening the market fluctuations, and because I can still exit at a profit even at a lower price than my long entry point, and finally I've been earning a small bit of swap for sitting in this trade.

Trade carefully,
Bill
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Old 09-02-2007, 07:17 PM
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But I do not feel any liberty to share somebody elses trades in a managed fund publically. So you will just need to ask Bill Young for details, if you need them.
Hi,

Bill Young at GoFXPro cannot release trade details of any kind to anyone except the account holder for those trades so don't bother asking - and a client can see the details for themselves just by checking their accounts.

The reason is compliance and client privacy. Asking to see other client information would be just like asking a doctor to see the charts for his other patients so one can perform "due diligence" before letting that doctor begin treatment, or perhaps deciding one is clever enough to treat oneself by following the charts of what was done in the past for another person!

If Bill Young releases this kind of information, he can lose his license. He won't do that for anyone. Recently an individual contacted GoFXPro demanding to see specific trade results for existing clients before directing a very large amount of money to GoFXPro (several commas large). The prospect was quite rude about it suggesting that because he had more money to invest than most, Bill should do what he was told. Bill refused as required by compliance regulations and the guy was quite indignant. Bill kindly suggested that this person engage in an act of self-mastication.*

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* Translation: Bill told the guy to go bite himself, but this is a family oriented thread so I use nice words. Well, I try...

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Expired CheckGrid

Bill -

I am still leanring to use CheckGrid and like it alot. How do I get another demo after the expiration of the current one?
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Bill -

I am still leanring to use CheckGrid and like it alot. How do I get another demo after the expiration of the current one?
It will be posted in my yahoo group when the current one expires.

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My copy expired today.
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My copy expired today.
New grid EA is onlline good through November.
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What is the average performance of the CorrFX program at gofxpro? He shows the performance from the Autofx program, but I understand that is purely a c4 robot on a MT4 platform and it is not actively traded.

The managed account trades with less leverage and tighter stop losses than the c4 robot, right? The performance of the managed account, therefore, is not really what we see on the website. I know it must be good, but is it as good as the C4 robot?
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Thanks - Love this thing.

Just want to trade the demo a little longer before I buy. I set it and up on EURGBP, a nice slow moving pair, and just watch it take in profit endlessly. Still trying to figure out the hedge math, and the appropriate drawdown levels to enter a hedge though. Almost seems like you might want to do that manually when you think the pair is making a stronger than anticipated directional move. I added ATR to my chart to keep a closer eye on the range.

I recently saw the EA you did for Freedom Rocks. Pretty cool.

Would you have any interest in coding EAs for a few strategies I was given by my broker for day trading crosses? They are fairly simple and effective but require you to look at your computer all day for the entry signals. A robot EA would make them great.
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Thanks - Love this thing.

Just want to trade the demo a little longer before I buy. I set it and up on EURGBP, a nice slow moving pair, and just watch it take in profit endlessly. Still trying to figure out the hedge math, and the appropriate drawdown levels to enter a hedge though. Almost seems like you might want to do that manually when you think the pair is making a stronger than anticipated directional move. I added ATR to my chart to keep a closer eye on the range.

I recently saw the EA you did for Freedom Rocks. Pretty cool.

Would you have any interest in coding EAs for a few strategies I was given by my broker for day trading crosses? They are fairly simple and effective but require you to look at your computer all day for the entry signals. A robot EA would make them great.
Hi,

Cross as in MA crosses, or cross currency pairs? How effective is "effective"? Any real world results with them yet?

There are a lot of simple MA cross robots in these forums already. Perhaps what you want is already there? I'm sorry but I don't have time to do custom programming. I've been working full time at developing ideas with GoFX.

Take care,
Bill
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