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  1. 09-08-2009 05:07 PM #1
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    FXiGoR Trading Group POWERED BY EA

    Hi,

    As some of you probably noticed I did not take any effort anymore to promote the zorro trading room or our
    systems or teaching how to trade.
    Over the 2 years that I had the private room I helped a lot of people how to trade and made a lot of friends
    but I had a lot of people attacking me because of discretionary results, not real results, results that were
    impossible to duplicate on real accounts, needed to sit all day long in front of your pc, results that were only
    published on excel sheets, way to heavy MM, some sort of martingale MM like La Bouchere, draw downs
    that were to big and me not willing to put my systems into EA’s so my systems could not be verified if they
    would work over a longer period of time…..etc etc…If those remarks were correct or not correct is a debate
    on itself ….BUT hear me out on what I have to offer:


    - A 100% mechanical system.
    - Fully automated trading in an EA.
    - An EA that is dynamic and recalculates its parameters every day on the current market conditions.
    - Normal compounding system.
    - No Martingale or La Bouchere or increasing lot size after a losing trade.
    - Back tests over 10 years of data on each pair that confirms extreme results over the whole period and
    each pair
    - Very small draw downs.
    - Extreme high reward/risk ratio over 1 year trading.
    - Links to trading platforms where you can follow the results of each member live updated every 5 min.
    - 100% transparency on everything what we do in the trading room.
    - And most important amazing results with very low risk that speak for themselves.
    - With the EA you will be possible to trade your own money or the money of others (account manager).
    - An EA that I will not commercialize by selling it. So we are sure that it would continue to work (not like
    fapturbo that killed itself by selling to much copys).


    Before you make any attacking or negative postings: Over the last 3 years I listened to all of your positive
    comments here and in the room and also to your complaints and negative comments and came up with
    a total solution that would proof what we do in the trading room in a 100% transparent way. No hidden
    agendas. So if you would be sceptical then check out the results of the members over a couple of week
    through the live links that each member has. They should speak for themselves. LIVE results don’t lie. If
    after a couple of weeks you would still have some doubts or questions please post them and I will try to
    answer them as good as possible. Please don’t ask how my system works or any hint to help you building
    something similar. I want to make money out of it and if you want to make money out of it then join the
    trading group. It is as simple as that. I placed 14 years experience in this EA. It is my life work.
    I know that many of you have been beaten many times by the market and lost serious amounts of money
    and because of systems or EA’s that were sold to you. You want to have somebody out there that would
    understand you and help you to recover the losses you made but without putting some more money on
    the table. I know that some of you think that if somebody asks a dollar for help or sell a system that he is
    not a true trader anymore. A true trader should earn money through trading and not by selling something.
    I try to find a nice balance between all of that so that each one of us benefits from what we have.
    If you still seek free information I believe that there is enough to find on the rest of this forum. As you
    probably know you are in the commercial section of this forum and for quality you pay. Which I guarantee
    we will give to you (see the guarantee we make at the bottom).


    We are now in the trading room with a small group of people that are trading a fabulous system I developed
    and that is programmed into an EA (programmed by one of the best programmers around).
    Some of you may remember that I was always very much against EA's because they have the tendency to
    stop working after a period of time. The reason for that is because all EA's out there are static black boxes.
    Meaning they are back tested and optimized over some data and the indicators that are used are given some
    ideal values obtained through that optimization. But once the dynamics of a particular market or pair starts to
    change the EA or the indicators with certain values can not cope with those new dynamics anymore and
    will result in serious losses or draw downs that can last for quite a long time.
    Our EA is not static but a dynamic EA. It recalculates itself every day and the “ideal” values that it needs
    based on the current market conditions.
    Try to see it like this: a static EA is like a bridge that you would build over a river.
    To be sure that the bridge would not get flooded when the river has a lot more water to swallow they gonna
    build it high enough. But if the river has nearly no water passing through in extreme dry periods then if you
    would drive with your car over the bridge you don't see the water anymore. And if there is exceptional high
    tide and extreme stormy conditions the bridge is still going to be flooded with water so you will be swept
    away while driving over the bridge.
    A dynamic EA is a bridge that has hydraulic pillars. During the summer when there is nearly no water the
    bridge is going to be very low so you could still enjoy the view when you drive with your car over that bridge.
    If in extreme conditions during the winter when there is a lot of rain and a very high tide the bridge is going
    to go up so that one could still pass over the bridge without any danger to be swept away by the river.


    How can you benefit from this EA?
    If you would be interested in the EA you can join our trading group. If you are a member I give you the EA
    so you can demo trade it to be sure it makes the same amount of profits as you will continuously see in my
    results and the results of the other members. In the room you can also follow the results of other peoples
    account demo or real accounts and compare them to yours.
    If you would be convinced about your results you can then move over to a real account. The minimum account
    size for a real account is 5000$. From the profits you make you will pay an account managers fee. (Please do
    not contact me to say something like: I am a student and I only have 2000$ on my account, could you please
    accept me ?)

    At this moment 5 pairs are traded: eur/usd, gbp/usd, usd/chf, usd/jpy, usd,cad.
    Per pair the EA is tweaked a little bit to get the best out of it. But we clearly gave proof if we give the exact
    same set of values for each pair then the results stay spectacular on each pair. That shows the robustness of
    the EA. Which is completely in line with the fact that the EA is a dynamic EA and is calculating its "ideal"
    parameters on itself and based on specific market conditions as explained above.

    What to expect ?
    The profits that the EA makes is +/- 10% profit per month. Does not matter what your starting
    account balance would be ( the contract size it needs to take in on a position is calculated fully automated by
    the EA based on whatever your account balance would be or whatever the basic currency is that you use).
    The risk or Maximum draw down you can have is smaller then 1/10 of the total profit you will make over a
    year trading. In other words the Reward/Risk ratio over 1 year trading is bigger then 10.
    A hitrate between 75 and 85% and an average losing trade that is between 1.5 and 2 times bigger then the
    average winning trade.
    The EA uses a normal compounding technique that is calculated on your account balance in combination
    with the S/L that it has on a particular trade. But your risk stays always the same over every trade. The EA
    does not increase the risk after some losses would have occurred. Meaning we do not use any Martingale
    techniques or La Bouchere or increase of lot size after losses that would be made.
    Live help in the trading room to install your EA and to be sure you have all the correct settings and setup
    and possibility to compare your results with the other members in the trading room.

    What else to expect ?
    The EA is completely protected in combination with DLL’s. One can only use an EA on one account.
    The EA expires at the end of each week. A new key is given every week after I checked in the weekend that
    no other trades were taken in by other EA's or you personal manual trading. Meaning that your account needs
    to run and trade exclusively our EA.
    After you have paid the account manager commission based on your profits at the end of the month, you
    automatically become a member for the next month and no additional membership fee’s needs to be paid.
    It is extreme important that you work with a reliable broker that has low spreads. Some of the brokers that we
    can recommend would be ATCbrokers, Dukascopy (yep the EA runs also on Dukascopy) and FXCM.
    Every morning we check and compare our results with each other to see if all results are in line. If not then the
    problem will be solved. This problem will be most of the time due to a broker that uses spreads that are too
    wide.
    If you take out every month your profit you can not expect to come up with a big amount of money at the
    end of the year. The compounding effect is getting better the more you leave your profits in your account.

    (the rest of the text is on the next posting)
    Last edited by iGoR; 09-08-2010 at 04:40 PM.
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  2. 09-08-2009 05:32 PM #2
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    Things you need to do ?
    Working with a reliable low spread broker or a REAL ECN broker (several that we can recommend and we are not an IB).
    Your broker needs to be a minimum 100:1 leverage broker.
    Your forward testing period can not be longer then 1 month membership. After your forward testing period is
    finished you move over to a min. real 5000$ account or your membership can not be renewed.
    Upload your results LIVE on a publisher site with the same name you have on forex-tsd so that your results can
    be checked LIVE and verified so no discussion is possible.
    Keeping exclusively our EA on your account and no personal trading is possible so everybody can clearly see
    what the results are with our EA.

    The zorro trading group is now purely concentrating on how each individual can make as much possible money.
    This is no longer by teaching people how to trade. All trading is now done in an automated way. So people who
    have a normal day job can benefit as much from this room as people who are full time traders.

    Our EA is called Cash_DNA .
    Don't contact me to ask if I would sell the EA for what ever kind of money. This EA is absolutely not for sale
    and will never be.



    If you want to become a member of the zorro trading group you can contact me: CashDNA@gmail.com
    if you want to have furder information on the account manager fees etc contact CashDNA@gmail.com (Mails will be answered by my business associate Eric "egi1610").
    The membership fee stays at 89€.

    The LIVE link to my results: MT Intelligence - Results for fxigor1

    We also take full care for people who do not have the time or knowledge to keep busy with
    setting up their accounts or look after it and would prefer that we fully manage their account
    (without the possibility to withdraw money of coure).


    The fact that me and all current members and people who want to become a member need to publish
    their results on live servers is because I am 100% convinsed of our system...today and in the future.
    I am quite sure that most vendors out there don't want to take such risks. I hope I set a new standard
    in the vendors world by doing what we do and the transparancy that we show.
    Last edited by iGoR; 08-21-2010 at 05:26 PM.
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  3. 09-08-2009 05:38 PM #3
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    Backtests

    Here are the backtests over the 5 pairs we trade at this moment and this over a 10 year period for each pair.
    In these backtests I do not use any compounding technique. Which we do use in our normal trading in the trading room.
    If I would use a compounding technique in the back tests over 10 years data the equity curve would fly through the roof.

    For those who would think that these backtests are not really realistic, I can asure you that we do not use any re-painting elements nore any MTF elements.
    The results we make now are completaly in line with the backtests and if we do a backtest over a period of forward trading then the backtest results are the same as the live results.

    Friendly regards...iGoR
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  4. 09-08-2009 05:39 PM #4
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    Hi,

    40 members are now on real live accounts. Thanks for the trust you give me and the CashDNA_EA.
    For privacy reasons the members prefered not to make their results public and which is understandable. Some people even said to me if their results would be made public trough a link that they would not join because they do not want to share privat information.

    The few other people who are on demo will need to join this week. If not their subscription comes to an end.

    The results obtained trough the links gave me a clear view on which brokers are the better ones to trade and which brokers are better to avoid.

    Here is one link from me where you can still follow how the CashDNA is performing :
    MT Intelligence - Stats for fxigor1

    Friendly regards....iGoR
    Last edited by iGoR; 11-03-2009 at 12:24 AM.
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  5. 09-08-2009 05:40 PM #5
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    reserved for future information.

    PS. Tomorrow the members of the room are going to post their links to the site where they publish their results.
    Last edited by iGoR; 09-08-2009 at 05:44 PM.
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  6. 09-08-2009 05:55 PM #6
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    This sounds very intriguing but before committing my money on this (90 per month is not a problem) I would like to hear a bit about the method, no specifics, just the main parts.

    - Do you operate on dailies or intraday
    - What pairs you operate with
    - Is this arbitrage, breakout/trend trading or mean reversion

    Thanks in advance!

    edit: also, what is account manager fee you mention, is that included in 90 per month fee?
    Last edited by mikkom; 09-08-2009 at 05:58 PM.
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  7. 09-08-2009 06:11 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikkom View Post
    This sounds very intriguing but before committing my money on this (90 per month is not a problem) I would like to hear a bit about the method, no specifics, just the main parts.

    - Do you operate on dailies or intraday
    - What pairs you operate with
    - Is this arbitrage, breakout/trend trading or mean reversion

    Thanks in advance!

    edit: also, what is account manager fee you mention, is that included in 90 per month fee?

    Hi Mikkon,

    The system does not trade a time frame. ex. if I would place the EA on a 1 min. TF or a 5min.TF or a 15min.TF or do a backtests on those different time frames the results would be exactly the same.
    It trades a situation regardless of time. Can't tell you more then that.
    The pairs that we trade are mensioned in my first introducing posting. Read it carefully and you will find all info.
    The backtests that are posted are on the pairs we trade at this moment. But backtests showed also great results on oil or gold and maybe other markets that I did not check out because of lack of historical data.
    It would problably also run on more exotic pairs but we want to keep the trading costs or spreads as low as possible. I don't want to go for a 10pip profit target with the knowledge that I need to pay 7 or 8 pip trading costs to my broker. Meaning that he nearly earns as much as we do without doing anything and without taking any risk.

    Hope this info helps a little bit. If not please let me know.

    Regards....iGoR
    Last edited by iGoR; 09-08-2009 at 07:12 PM.
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  8. 09-08-2009 07:09 PM #8
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    The most important question: what is the commission and what is it based, new highest profit?
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  9. 09-08-2009 07:12 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikkom View Post
    The most important question: what is the commission and what is it based, new highest profit?
    The account manager fee is of course not included in the 89€ :-)
    If one becomes a member (by paying the 89€) he or she can demo or forward trade or test the EA with a maximum of 1 month. After that first month there are 2 possibilitys: one stops or want to continue. If one wants to continue he or she will put the EA on a minimum 5000$ real account. At the end of that month a manager fee is payed from the profits that are made.
    For furder details on that you can always mail me on the email adress CashDNA@gmail.com

    Regards...iGoR
    Last edited by iGoR; 09-08-2009 at 07:15 PM.
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  10. 09-09-2009 04:17 AM #10
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    Hello Igor,

    Very impressive.

    Regards,
    Jeff
    Last edited by azjeff; 09-09-2009 at 05:19 AM.
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