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Old 12-08-2006, 07:52 PM
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HI NINA,

Congratulations for ur 700 page of the thread,

it's what Nina is CONSISTENCY AND DISCIPLINE,

I wish you the best for ur Cat FX 2007, and of course merry christmas

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HI NINA,

Congratulations for ur 700 page of the thread,

it's what Nina is CONSISTENCY AND DISCIPLINE,

I wish you the best for ur Cat FX 2007, and of course merry christmas

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Hi!

Thanks, Gusdinsalvoforex!

Wish you the best too.

Big Boys, some say Central Banks, bought 5.5bln EURUSD when it was at its lows.
A leveraged account bought USD 7bln when it was at its lows.
Amazing!
From 1,3363 (triple top), EURUSD went down to 1,3191 = 172 pips. That's amazing for the pair.

Levels posted have given:

+ 67 pips on eurusd on its way up.

+ 95 pips on its way down.

+ 58 pips on usdchf on its way down.

+ 117 on its way up.

+ 113 pips on gbpusd on its way up.

+ 97 pips on its way down.

+ 547 pips.

I posted my levels today just to give you the line in the sand on each pair and I did it at 14:00CET.
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Hi!

Thanks, Gusdinsalvoforex!

Wish you the best too.

Big Boys, some say Central Banks, bought 5.5bln EURUSD when it was at its lows.
A leveraged account bought USD 7bln when it was at its lows.
Amazing!
From 1,3363 (triple top), EURUSD went down to 1,3191 = 172 pips. That's amazing for the pair.

Levels posted have given:

+ 67 pips on eurusd on its way up.

+ 95 pips on its way down.

+ 58 pips on usdchf on its way down.

+ 117 on its way up.

+ 113 pips on gbpusd on its way up.

+ 97 pips on its way down.

+ 547 pips.

I posted my levels today just to give you the line in the sand on each pair and I did it at 14:00CET.
Nina,

I remember you challenged us to show you an accurate and complex "prediction of an actual live trade that has been called utilizing EW. Here is the one that I think is obviously demonstrates a power of EW when you know what you are doing.

This trade is from another forum and was posgted during early London session way before NFP. Cable was at 9640 then. Here is the trade signal:

Buy GBP/USD at 1.9550

Stop is 1.9509

Target #1 is 1.9680
Target #2 is 1.9740

Risk is 45 pips

Reward #1 is 126 minimum pips
Reward #2 is 186 minimum pips

Reward : risk ratio is minimum 2.8/4.1 to 1


Now if you check the market movement you shall see that not only the trade was accurately forecasting a reversal of a temporary correction but it also managed to establish the final point of the price and time at the end of the session today.

Also if you check a thread there were other currency pairs that matched those results. Lastly and more importantly, there are traders who followed this trade and reported actual pips. Well, of course they were not 500+ with multiple pairs but merely over 200 pips per pair with actual standard lots.

I am sure you will have something to say about it. But one might have to take this analysis and say how anyone could come with accurace of reversal of a trend correction, precission of a level of reversal and targets and then actually even have a time figured out as well.

Must be magic or as you call them snake oils salesmen. Unfortunately they were not charging anything and placed their signals live where others can benefit from.

This post has nothing to do with whether your system has helped th others and produced the results for them. It merely illustrates that when someone knows how to apply Elliott Waves, they can produce phenomenal results. The key is trully know how it works and not speculating after following some other people signals.
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Hi!

Thanks, Gusdinsalvoforex!

Wish you the best too.

Big Boys, some say Central Banks, bought 5.5bln EURUSD when it was at its lows.
A leveraged account bought USD 7bln when it was at its lows.
Amazing!
From 1,3363 (triple top), EURUSD went down to 1,3191 = 172 pips. That's amazing for the pair.

Levels posted have given:

+ 67 pips on eurusd on its way up.

+ 95 pips on its way down.

+ 58 pips on usdchf on its way down.

+ 117 on its way up.

+ 113 pips on gbpusd on its way up.

+ 97 pips on its way down.

+ 547 pips.

I posted my levels today just to give you the line in the sand on each pair and I did it at 14:00CET.

Hello Nina,

What were your entry points with the Eurusd on the way up and on the way down ?

In my opinion they were, when applying catfx50:

on the way up : Buy at 1.3333 at 15:00 CET
on the way down ; Sell at 1.3216 at 18:00 CET

But that does not give enough room for the number of pips you mention.

Vivaldi
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Hello Nina,

What were your entry points with the Eurusd on the way up and on the way down ?

In my opinion they were, when applying catfx50:

on the way up : Buy at 1.3333 at 15:00 CET
on the way down ; Sell at 1.3216 at 18:00 CET

But that does not give enough room for the number of pips you mention.

Vivaldi
I believe Nina is just posting the moves but not trades.

According to my Neuimex in the three pairs the up and down bars had 60 to 100 pips.

With the euro you could make (with huge luck) 18 pips before NFP 105 pips reversal.
Then if you enter long with the new bar you could make 30 pips.
And then, taking a high risk trade, you could enter short after the 120 pips bar reversal you could made 15 pips.

With GBP you had the most clear signal, 45 pips before NFP reversal. 50 pips after big bar and 30 plus 156 pips bar reversal.

CHF it´s similar to the Euro

Maybe I´m too conservative and I only want to play clear an sure moves, but I remember two of the rules of Cat:
1-When bar open more than 20 pips above/below EMA 50, the signal is riskier.
2-Whe´re playing with closed bar, or when the bars opens...

In all three cases the big bars have crossed the EMA 50 twice (up and down), so, you have to wait for the next bar open above/below narrowing the field to play.

Another thing is, if you are a responsible trader, you should close all trades before NPF with one exception: if you´re trading with TF above 3hs.

However, you can made a lot of money today using support/resistance conbined with supply and demand. In few words: buy low, sell high.
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I believe Nina is just posting the moves but not trades.

According to my Neuimex in the three pairs the up and down bars had 60 to 100 pips.

With the euro you could make (with huge luck) 18 pips before NFP 105 pips reversal.
Then if you enter long with the new bar you could make 30 pips.
And then, taking a high risk trade, you could enter short after the 120 pips bar reversal you could made 15 pips.

With GBP you had the most clear signal, 45 pips before NFP reversal. 50 pips after big bar and 30 plus 156 pips bar reversal.

CHF it´s similar to the Euro

Maybe I´m too conservative and I only want to play clear an sure moves, but I remember two of the rules of Cat:
1-When bar open more than 20 pips above/below EMA 50, the signal is riskier.
2-Whe´re playing with closed bar, or when the bars opens...

In all three cases the big bars have crossed the EMA 50 twice (up and down), so, you have to wait for the next bar open above/below narrowing the field to play.

Another thing is, if you are a responsible trader, you should close all trades before NPF with one exception: if you´re trading with TF above 3hs.

However, you can made a lot of money today using support/resistance conbined with supply and demand. In few words: buy low, sell high.
Hi!!

Sorry, Linuxser and other pals!

This was my post number 6989 at 14:00CET:

"Hi, Pals!

OK, big day is here: NFP.

Lets see how and where we have our beloved pairs:

EURUSD is in sell mode. It should keep like this if it does not break up 1,3296.

USDCHF is in buy mode. It should keep like this if it does not break down 1,1940.
GBPUSD is in sell mode. It should keep like this if it does not break up 1,9614.

As you know, NFP is a monster. So, you can go up 30 pips and then go down 150. So, take care. There have been awful games lately.

Then you have what our "friends" do. FOREX is a non-regulated business and brokers can make whatever they want. And they want your money: do not forget that.

And then you have all those revisions NFP people use to do.

Good luck.
"

These levels have nothing to do with CATFX50. The recap (?) done is taking into account these levels and not what CATFX50 made.

The only place we could have bought EURUSD following CATFX50 is at 1,3334 (Alpari) with an unaffordable stop. As we had a lot of strength, look at TF5 and you'll see.

But we had a right fractal up at 1,3323 with a stop at 1,3298 or at 1,3280. And we had a right fractal down at 1,3237 with a huge stop.

CATFX50 was not the best system to trade NFP yesterday. As I know that, that's why I posted the levels half an hour before data where each pair changed from bearish to bullish and from bullish to bearish in the case of EURUSD and GBPUSD.

When those levels broke there was no hesitation. It was like a rocket.
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Hi, JaneFX!

I do not want to start again a discussion about EW. I said all I wanted to say.

Each trader is free to follow whatever systems as long as it gives money to him/her.

No problem.
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Wow

finally somebody steps up and applies technical analysis to newstrading ... Not to mention the huge spike, where price really did not do anything at all ....

Sorry to say but any tech trader should not try to prove that the system works with that kind of move it just makes the system looks useless.

I am quite sad that this is the first time I found the threat ( I was looking for it though ) because it is so bloated wif comments that belong to an offtopic area and not to a place where people discuss prices from a very sophisticated background ( if we leave away the ones on the look for the holy grale )

It would be best for the threat if offtopic could be stopped, whether it is Oh my Gosh Nina you are the greatest or Oh my Gosh you suck and return to a discussion about the topic. This will leave more room for a good discussion on price levels, will reveal some insight and so on.

Trading in my opinion is a mix of tech and fundamental ( wow ... dood that was hellasmart ).

Please lets all act together to work on our trading instead of bashing each other. After all I think that the main actor in this thread shows extraordinary skills that could benefit most of us readers.

Next week is going to be very intereting after having seen nfp and michigan coming in rather strong for the US economy, but not so much for the US $.

Tuesday and Friday will set the stage whether the Dollar has seen its bottom or if this is was just the beginning of a trend that will send the Euro to 1.40 and the Pound to above 2.00

My reading on this is that with the big picture in mind that the housing market hast bottomed, labor market is still tight and inflation still slightly higher than wanted, we will most propably see the Dollar against Euro and Franc trend higher ( especially with slightly weaker Euro Data and quiet weak Swiss data on the hand ). The Pound, I must say, will definitly struggle to keep this level or even trend higher with a housing bubble burst on the rise and the BOE with little room to raise interest rates.

Level for the end of the week should be

Dollar Euro ( 1.29 )

can easily retrace to 1.30 area (whereas the 1.29 area should be a strong support ) to find a new support level there since the move that elavated this cross hat inflationary tendecies and should normalize over the next week if the data coming from the US is not too weak ( and of course if whatever the Fed does will not spur a sellout in the Dollar, wich I do not believe )

Dollar Cable (1.92 )

will definitly not see 2 : 1 this year amid very weak UK Data expected next week especially wif inflationary pressure weakening that should not drive interest rates to the US levels ( wich to me appears to be the key factor that allows a 2:1 ratio ). Housing and bad loans should become a greater problem for the pound.



CHF USD Driving factor here the Euro but should find support at 1.2250 with interest rates at the second lowes among the majors that leaves some room for gains but this is a question to be answered by the banking sector there.

Overall Euro/CHF is bound to gain over the next year so Dollar shorts should pay off at the end in any case.

Just my 2 Cents
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Hi!!

Sorry, Linuxser and other pals!

This was my post number 6989 at 14:00CET:

"Hi, Pals!

OK, big day is here: NFP.

Lets see how and where we have our beloved pairs:

EURUSD is in sell mode. It should keep like this if it does not break up 1,3296.

USDCHF is in buy mode. It should keep like this if it does not break down 1,1940.
GBPUSD is in sell mode. It should keep like this if it does not break up 1,9614.

As you know, NFP is a monster. So, you can go up 30 pips and then go down 150. So, take care. There have been awful games lately.

Then you have what our "friends" do. FOREX is a non-regulated business and brokers can make whatever they want. And they want your money: do not forget that.

And then you have all those revisions NFP people use to do.

Good luck.
"

These levels have nothing to do with CATFX50. The recap (?) done is taking into account these levels and not what CATFX50 made.

The only place we could have bought EURUSD following CATFX50 is at 1,3334 (Alpari) with an unaffordable stop. As we had a lot of strength, look at TF5 and you'll see.

But we had a right fractal up at 1,3323 with a stop at 1,3298 or at 1,3280. And we had a right fractal down at 1,3237 with a huge stop.

CATFX50 was not the best system to trade NFP yesterday. As I know that, that's why I posted the levels half an hour before data where each pair changed from bearish to bullish and from bullish to bearish in the case of EURUSD and GBPUSD.

When those levels broke there was no hesitation. It was like a rocket.

No problem. Anyway, seems you and me, we´re using the same levels .

During the morning and prior NFP my levels:

EUR: 1.3306 sell mode
GBP: 1.9621 sell mode

After NFP runs up the new levels go to buy mode above 1.33 and 1.9640. And to close the day we had moved to sell mode again at 1.3240 and 1.9593

Is that what you have?
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Wow

finally somebody steps up and applies technical analysis to newstrading ... Not to mention the huge spike, where price really did not do anything at all ....

Sorry to say but any tech trader should not try to prove that the system works with that kind of move it just makes the system looks useless.

I am quite sad that this is the first time I found the threat ( I was looking for it though ) because it is so bloated wif comments that belong to an offtopic area and not to a place where people discuss prices from a very sophisticated background ( if we leave away the ones on the look for the holy grale )

It would be best for the threat if offtopic could be stopped, whether it is Oh my Gosh Nina you are the greatest or Oh my Gosh you suck and return to a discussion about the topic. This will leave more room for a good discussion on price levels, will reveal some insight and so on.

Trading in my opinion is a mix of tech and fundamental ( wow ... dood that was hellasmart ).

Please lets all act together to work on our trading instead of bashing each other. After all I think that the main actor in this thread shows extraordinary skills that could benefit most of us readers.

Next week is going to be very intereting after having seen nfp and michigan coming in rather strong for the US economy, but not so much for the US $.

Tuesday and Friday will set the stage whether the Dollar has seen its bottom or if this is was just the beginning of a trend that will send the Euro to 1.40 and the Pound to above 2.00

My reading on this is that with the big picture in mind that the housing market hast bottomed, labor market is still tight and inflation still slightly higher than wanted, we will most propably see the Dollar against Euro and Franc trend higher ( especially with slightly weaker Euro Data and quiet weak Swiss data on the hand ). The Pound, I must say, will definitly struggle to keep this level or even trend higher with a housing bubble burst on the rise and the BOE with little room to raise interest rates.

Level for the end of the week should be

Dollar Euro ( 1.29 )

can easily retrace to 1.30 area (whereas the 1.29 area should be a strong support ) to find a new support level there since the move that elavated this cross hat inflationary tendecies and should normalize over the next week if the data coming from the US is not too weak ( and of course if whatever the Fed does will not spur a sellout in the Dollar, wich I do not believe )

Dollar Cable (1.92 )

will definitly not see 2 : 1 this year amid very weak UK Data expected next week especially wif inflationary pressure weakening that should not drive interest rates to the US levels ( wich to me appears to be the key factor that allows a 2:1 ratio ). Housing and bad loans should become a greater problem for the pound.



CHF USD Driving factor here the Euro but should find support at 1.2250 with interest rates at the second lowes among the majors that leaves some room for gains but this is a question to be answered by the banking sector there.

Overall Euro/CHF is bound to gain over the next year so Dollar shorts should pay off at the end in any case.

Just my 2 Cents
Hi, Smooth!

Why Central Banks bought EUR at its lows on Friday?

Why a leveraged account bought USD 7bln when it was at its lows?

We could find a few Fridays like the last one. From its low (14:30CET bar), EURUSD went up 127 pips. And from its high (16:00CET bar), EURUSD went down 175 pips. All that astonish and sick range in just 3 hours. A move of 302pips!!!!!

EURUSD closed at its worst level in 5 days.

I do not like what happened on Friday. I do not like it at all.

But as trading is what you see and not what you think, EURUSD will be in bullish mode as long as it keeps closing hourly above 1,3128.

An hourly close below 1,3128 will mean, for me, that the pair will be set to go to 1,2880.

The EURUSD close on Friday below 1,3215, gave me the first signal of weakness.

Next will be 1,3165.

We'll see.
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