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so far I have read this thread two times . I am appriciated that newdigital
explain rule so munc .

I will try it next week .
I was not trading this system for many months so may be I forgot something to tell about the rules so sorry.
I am planning to come back to this system next week as well.
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first try
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broker: FXDD
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pairs : USDGPB
TIME 7:00 am (FXDD TIME)
TF: 1H m15 4 bars confirmation
Order Price: Buy 1.9824
stop :1.9801
status: still open


pairs : USDCHF
TIME 8:00 am (FXDD TIME)
TF: 1H m15 4 bars confirmation
Order Price: Buy 1.2070
stop :1.2055
status: still open






comment:
I think USDGPB is a little risky because trade time is asian session (maybe choppy market )
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GTM diff
could someone tell me common brokers server time differ from GMT time .

eg FXDD , North Finance , CFG ,Interbank ,Alpari

FXDD time is GMT +2 or GMT +1 ,I don't know .
Is Alpari SERVER TIME GMT+0 ?
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GBPUSD.

H1 timeframe.
At 6 am (Alpari broker time) bar with buy signal was closed on H1 timeframe.
Price to open the order: 1.9816.
Stop loss #1 and stop loss #2 = 1.9764.

M15 confirmation.
It was just 1 bar confirmation on M15 timeframe.
Look at the image: we are having red color on the second close bar.

Usually i am not trading with 1 bar confirmarion.
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Lightbulb my result , would you help me to confirm ,maybe I do something wrong
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GBPUSD.

H1 timeframe.
At 6 am (Alpari broker time) bar with buy signal was closed on H1 timeframe.
Price to open the order: 1.9816.
Stop loss #1 and stop loss #2 = 1.9764.

M15 confirmation.
It was just 1 bar confirmation on M15 timeframe.
Look at the image: we are having red color on the second close bar.

Usually i am not trading with 1 bar confirmarion.
In my MT (FXDD) client , I got 4 bars confirmation .
I am using FXDD demo account , and using old version BT system ,not all in one version .
would you confirm my 4 bars confirmation is right or not .

I attach my m15 chart
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GBPUSD.

H1 timeframe.
At 6 am (Alpari broker time) bar with buy signal was closed on H1 timeframe.
Price to open the order: 1.9816.
Stop loss #1 and stop loss #2 = 1.9764.

M15 confirmation.
It was just 1 bar confirmation on M15 timeframe.
Look at the image: we are having red color on the second close bar.

Usually i am not trading with 1 bar confirmarion.
Once you opened the order on GBPUSD on 1 bar confirmation only so let's describe the situation.

Price to open the order was 1.9816 (it may be different for you because i am using Alpari and you are using FXDD). Let's say aroud 1.9816, right?
Stop loss #1 was moved to 1.9783.
Stop loss #2 was moved to 1.9805.
You may use any kind of trailing stop/stop loss.

What we can say about this buy for GBPUSD?
I posted the H1 images with all the indicators. I only added 2 additional indicators to understand market condition: 2 AbsoluteStrenth indicators (normal one and MTF_AbsoluteStrenthMarket_v1).

Price to open the order was aroud 1.9816 and initial stop value was 1.9774 and 1.9766 (stop loss #1 and #2: it is your choise to select anyone). It is very thin for H1 timeframe. But anyway possible.

Demarker indicator confirmed this order.

Stochastic indcator confirmed this order.

The price was somewhere in the middle between high/low of the day (dayHL and ^Pivot_ResSup indicators): we are still have more than 100 pips to move up to the resistance or possible daily high.

iTrend indicator confirmed buy: DarkKhaki color was above zero and red color was below 0.

It was not confirmed b Parabilic SAR indicator but this indicator is optional.

Market condition:
It was uptrend on H1 and uptrend till now (blue color) and it was correctional downtrend and then choppy market (yellow colow) on M15.

Conclusion:
This order is possible but very risky as we are having 1 bar confirmation only.

When I am posting this message so stop loss was moved one more time and we are having now:
Price to open the order 1.9816.
Stop loss #1 was moved to 1.9805.
Stop loss #2 was moved to 1.9810.
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In my MT (FXDD) client , I got 4 bars confirmation .
I am using FXDD demo account , and using old version BT system ,not all in one version .
would you confirm my 4 bars confirmation is right or not .

I attach my m15 chart
Back, not forward.
You opened the order on 7 am close bar on H1 timeframe.
Confirmation: how many bars back starting from 7am closed bar on M15 are not having red color at all.
Bakc from 7 am: 7 am closed bar; 6:45 closed bar; 6:30 closed bar ...
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USDCHF.

We had buy oprder at 7 am close H1 bar (you had at 8 am).
Price to open the order: around 1.2065.
Original stop loss: 1.2052.
Immediate conclusion: it is very thin stop loss as it is very difficult to trade H1 timeframe having initial stop loss just 13 pips only. We may trade but it is very very risky case (we may lose 13 pips on any spikes of the price).

M15 confirmation.
We had 5 bars confirmation for M15. It is very good and not often case. Usually we will have 2 or 3 bars confirmation. And sometimes we will consider 3 bars confirmation as very very good.
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Back, not forward.
You opened the order on 7 am close bar on H1 timeframe.
Confirmation: how many bars back starting from 7am closed bar on M15 are not having red color at all.
Bakc from 7 am: 7 am closed bar; 6:45 closed bar; 6:30 closed bar ...
is MY chart right ? maybe I will check rule again

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I am not sure exactly but I think that confirmation of H1 timeframe on M15 will work. I mean that we are trading on H1 and confirming the signals on M15. It means that for example we have signal on 6 pm (new bar was opened on H1 chart) and it should be fully confirmed on M15 from 6 pm till 7 pm (when this H1 bar will be closed and we opened order).

I tried to trade and it works. What is the signal? On the image brain1.gif you see 3 signals and only 1 was confirmed on m15 (image brain2.gif attached).

If the new bar was opened with the signal on H1 we will look on M15 timeframe and all the time we must have confirmation untill this H1 bar will be closed and, if we still have the signal on H1, we will open the order.

It looks complicated and I am sorry for the bad explanation but it is really very simple.

I will try tomorrow.
Do I misunderstand the rule?
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Let's estimate the situation for USDCHF H1 timeframe (if you already opened the order) on the same way.

Price to open the order: around 1.2065.
Stop loss #1: 1.2048.
Stop loss #2: 1.2052.
You may choose any stop loss value.

(it may be different for you because i am using Alpari and you are using FXDD). It is very thin stop loss value. Very risky. Anyway, possible.

What we can say about this buy for USDCHF?
Please find H1 image with all the indicators. I only added 2 additional indicators to understand market condition: 2 AbsoluteStrenth indicators (normal one and MTF_AbsoluteStrenthMarket_v1).

MTF_AbsoluteStrenthMarket_v1 indicator is from "well working trading system ...' thread (public thread and the same elite section thread). This indicator is still in testing mode so it was not posted anywhere. It will be posted after testing.

Demarker indicator confirmed this order.

Stochastic indcator did not confirmed this order.

The price was somewhere in the middle between high/low of the day (dayHL and ^Pivot_ResSup indicators): we are still have more than 100 pips to move up to the resistance or possible daily high.

iTrend indicator confirmed buy: DarkKhaki color was above zero and red color was below 0.

Parabolic SAR confirmed.

55 EMA: not confirmed.

Market condition:
It was "Not Trading" (write color) on H1 and choppy market on M15 (yellow color). It was AbsoluteStrenth indicator and its interpetation: MTF_AbsoluteStrenthMarket_v1 indicator.

Conclusion:
This order is possible but very very risky.

When I am posting this message so stop loss was moved one more time and we are having now:
Price to open the order 1.2065.
Stop loss #1 was not moved and we are still having 1.2048.
Stop loss #2 was not moved and we are still having 1.2052.
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