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I have created a neural network trading system based on the strategies I used in manual trading. The profit and equity curves are amazing in the training.But on live data I am not able match the exact performance that I got with training set, but its not bad.
I have some questions.
1) How to avoid overfitting?
2) What is the right way of evaluating a neural net? While optimizing I get lot of good results I dont know which one to pick.
As my end of year project, I am creating a web-based charting software (very similar to the Yahoo Finance Charts with all the usual indicators i.e. Stochastics, Moving averages, RSI, etc...)
but with a major addition - the neural network based indicator.
As freely available neural network indicators seem rare, I would like to know:
- if anybody on these forums would consider using such a system? (my charting solution)
- do you have any knowledge about neural networks? (none required)
- any suggestions? or features you would like to see?
Note:
- The aNN (artificial neural network) indicator will be displayed using default setting values (number of hidden neurons, etc...) so that even users with NO knowledge of Neural Networks can use the indicator.
- The aNN indicator will also allow a user to change these default values (for advanced/experimenting users).
- Stock market feeds will be used at first. But FOREX currency pairs data can easily be added.
All comments welcome
i develop some system using NN for market prediction. so you can contact me.
I have created a neural network trading system based on the strategies I used in manual trading. The profit and equity curves are amazing in the training.But on live data I am not able match the exact performance that I got with training set, but its not bad.
I have some questions.
1) How to avoid overfitting?
2) What is the right way of evaluating a neural net? While optimizing I get lot of good results I dont know which one to pick.
use the cross validation. In every epoch calculate the error of patterns that not exist in trainig set. When the error begin increase just terminate training process. It is simple.
I have created a neural network trading system based on the strategies I used in manual trading. The profit and equity curves are amazing in the training.But on live data I am not able match the exact performance that I got with training set, but its not bad.
I have some questions.
1) How to avoid overfitting?
2) What is the right way of evaluating a neural net? While optimizing I get lot of good results I dont know which one to pick.
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I have created a neural network trading system based on the strategies I used in manual trading. The profit and equity curves are amazing in the training.But on live data I am not able match the exact performance that I got with training set, but its not bad.
if you really know how to use NEURAL network
I think you should know how to do it -- just compare with real, for the next 2 hour time frame -- to see whether thte prediction fit
It's interesting to note, that it is becoming very rare for people to actually understand the complexity behind Neural Networks and the fact that people actually call certain EA's as having a NN network within the code are not really NN's.
It's been stated by very many good coders, that the possibility of implementing a NN center point within an EA in MQL code, is not only extremely complex, most likely beyond the knowledge of most coders, but completely impractical considering the limitations of MQL code.
I by no means have any NN background, but nonetheless, I understand the fact that a NN is constantly being optimized to predict high probability decisions for the future- which to me seems like curve fitting like mad- which is more or less the case for the many EA's being sold today with "NN" models.
Why am I posting this?
Because if you're looking for an NN to make a decisions, a question comes to mind whether you are looking for an easy way out to trade? or you are just blindly and aimlessly curious in the capabilities of "propose" theoretical properties of a Neural Network system.
Btw, I have an I-Gullible MQL Code sitting around, someone wanna pay me a billion for it?
agree
-- if someone can program NN or AI into their program, unless, it is supported by a huge array or db
it is not even the concept of NN or AI, -- just NEGATE It !! heheh, who is stupid
do you use CLEMENTINE or other data mining software? What kind of data you use for inputs?
I start develop a expert system to analyse fundamental data. I will use neural networks to forecast market trends and reaction. Also i search an inverstors to make this project.
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