Diam0nd, I think you protest too much, I wasn't having a go at you, I was having a go at the way Metaquotes keeps breaking core functionality when adding new features (e.g. the history/download disaster or the genetic optimizer being about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike first time around), then if people try and have them up about bugs on the MQL fourm they get met with silence. I have obvously hit a sore spot, but don't worry, my opinion counts for nothing! . Metatrader is a great program, I just wish they would get it right! but then that's probably when we start paying