rwgold thanks for your efort in trying to help but from my post you could see that i already saved indicators to my mt4 indicaotrs folder and i restarted mt4 but simple the indicators are not loading in mt4

it is not mater of that i am doing something wrong ,indicators are saved where they should be,i am not new to mt4 and not new with computers(from 1981...) ,something is wrong with indicators or mt4