Did I offend you, I apologize. I was curious as to your involvement with these two people to see if researching them was justified. And although you claim not to like Bill's indicators, you admit that his books were like a philisophical bible to you.

I don't see the correlation between my recent arrival and my limited number of posts to me being ignorant. But I have noticed that many resort to childish insults when they feel threatened, such as calling someone an idiot, or numbnuts.

"A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult."
-Proverbs 12:16

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