Newdigital: Okay thanks, I will try to down load. I really want to get to the bottom of this. I have been testing with the HMA, LSMA, JMA, & FX Fish. They all look fantastic, but if they all change colours of line/bars, then a regular EMA crossover would be better with a CCI zero line confirmation.

If there anyway to change the code in these indicators to not change the colour of line/bars anymore than lets say 2 bars back ??

The other one I have been testing is the Trend Manager, and its rock solid, it will not change colour once its painted in. But I would like to get one of these others working properly as an additional confirmation, if at all possible.