well seems every1 else has had ther say,might as well have mine.........firstly think the thread lost the plot a little after the first post and went off into a bit of a rant,even if it was funny in parts, and here was me thinking i was coming into the thread to find "the system",alas as a newbie to forex myself i also started out with a couple of ma's,doesn't every1,and i suppose they do work for a bit,but then you want more than a "bit",so thats when you start tryin to filter out all them loads of dam false signals, so as newbies what do we have ???? we dont have 20 odd years of experience in the pit and another 5 trading forex online.......we have them luvely old indicators,but what i think we have best of all is what the "senior members" where trying to point out is failure,because if you dont have failure then you cant learn and its only learning from what you done wrong in the past that you can do better the next time........sorry is that me back to experience again but until we have that experience we have all our luvly coloured indicators.............dont ya just luv em............anyway enough rant,like probabbly most "systems" mine also includes a cross of ma's in some form or other,and if it works for you it works,cos like snowdrops we are all different..............jeez now i know im drunk

good trading all.........the stellaman

p.s just as an edit......id just like to say that the guy i was talking to on the beach in goa(that got me started in this crazy world) with the rolex on, that was staying in the 7star hotel(yes there is 1)while i was in the tent on the beach,that made his lot in forex said to me to KEEP IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE..............