"any one making profit on live accounts with this one?"

I have in fact been trading this system for over 15 months. In that time I took over 2500 trades and have not lost one. My name is Bob and I am the mathematician that created the goldengrid trading system that the robominer uses. Yes, to the person that thinks that we just pulled the term "mathematical trading" from a hat, I do have a degree in operations research, a math degree.
In the first year in trading the RoboMiner we made over 300% profit with no losses and the draw-down was within specs. Anyone can down-load the robominer for free and demo test till your hearts delight. What other program will do that. Why? because mathematical trading is new and should be put next to fundamental trading and technical trading, two systems that this program is not.

But to answer your question, I can now live off of the money I make in trading the robominer alone. And so are a lot of others. I am sorry about the bad advice that you got from people that have never traded our system but you always have that. However, we don't hide anything, even to the point where you can demo trade for years without buying, I don't know how we could be any fairer than that. now we don't use stop-losses and not just because we don't lose. Stop losses are for technical traders which we are not. We use the balancefactor instead to cover draw-down. A money management solution instead of just throwing up your hands and saying well it's better to lose a little than a lot, like technical traders have to do. If you want to know more about mathematical trading ask someone who does it, not a technical trader because he has a whole set of beliefs that we just made out dated. So don't listen to someone elses opinion, not even mine. It's free so go test it on a demo until you know for yourself whether the robominer is right for you or not.
The NFA has initiated FIFO for spot traders. Therefore to trade RoboMiner in it's original form you have to use a broker from outside the US.. We can thank the NFA for more governmental stupidity for that one. However, for those that must use US broker for an IRA account or some other reason, we have added a switch for FIFO compliant. This switch will not allow the RoboMiner to trade the goldengrid system so we have developed a colapsed grid system as the alternative. The collapsed system will take some losses but it makes almost as much as RoboMiner 1 does. I created the system but I do not sell it nor do I support the programs, someone else does all that. If you want more info on the only no loss trading system known today, do a Google search for RoboMiner and see how many bad comments there are from actual users about the program. Put it all together and we have accomplished a lot. Is it perfect, no, some one could explode a nuclear device over New Zealand, then all bets are off. But baring this, the RoboMiner is without a doubt the safest trading system that you will find anywhere. I made it as a retirement program not a trading system. Doesn't make a lot of money but what you do make (5 to 10% per month) is yours. Good luck... Bob..