Braintrading system is ok. There are rules for this system. Many members of this forum participated in estimation of this rules http://www.forex-tsd.com/manual-trad...ng-system.html

For example, I got good sell signal yesterday on EURUSD H4 timeframe. And it was good sell for M30 as well. If you are using the M30 rules so you can avoid trading on any choppy market. Because we are not using this system as is. Try to look at the rules http://www.forex-tsd.com/manual-trad...ng-system.html

Many people were talking on the other threads about future possible direction of EURUSD yesterday in the morning trying to go buy.

But it was good and clear sell according to Brantrading system.
It was just an example.

Of course if we are trading using Braintrend without any rules we will lose. That it why we estimated the rules for H1, M30 and H4 timeframes adding some other indicators as a filters to this system. We backtested this system and did forward test of these rules during the two months already (there are 2 or 3 threads with results).

Braintrading system worked yesterday.

Now i am using this system together with Ichimoku indicators on H4, D1 and W1 timeframes. And it works as well.

As to ASCTrend system so nobody estimated the rules for this system yet.
Several indicators all together (ASCTrend system) are not a system yet. We have seveal versions of ASCTrend system already (4 or 5 even): two are from Russian forums, an other set of indicators was created by Beluck and final version of this system was created by Igorad. It should be rules for this system to be a system: when to trade, why, how to filter the signals, backtesting, forward testing, correction of the rules and so on.